Eero Ahonen wrote:
> helpful to illegal operation (no, I don't know the correct term in

"Accessory to crime"

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Warp wrote:
> However, even simulated childporn is illegal
> to produce and to own in most countries, with severe penalties.

There have even been cases in the USA where someone writing fantasy 
stories in his personal diary about child porn gets arrested and jailed 
for it.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   I believe in the US they are much stricter about respecting people's
> > constitutional rights than here. In the US the constitution is something
> > officials *must* obey.

> Supposedly. The most recent president has made a mess of that, simply 
> ignoring the constitution, and then ignoring the legislative branch 
> telling him not to ignore the constitution.

  OTOH, I assume that the US government does not impose the 25th,
section 4 very lightly.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> There have even been cases in the USA where someone writing fantasy 
> stories in his personal diary about child porn gets arrested and jailed 
> for it.

  IMO that's more a case of "that's just sick, he should be punished"
instead of having a logical legal meaning.

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Warp wrote:
>   OTOH, I assume that the US government does not impose the 25th,
> section 4 very lightly.

Assuming you mean Ammendment 25, it happens fairly often. If the 
president dies, or goes in the hospital, or something like that, this 
part kicks in.  At least, that's my understanding.

It's rare that it is imposed based on the sanity of the president. 
There's the "impeachment" process for that.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   OTOH, I assume that the US government does not impose the 25th,
> > section 4 very lightly.

> Assuming you mean Ammendment 25, it happens fairly often. If the 
> president dies, or goes in the hospital, or something like that, this 
> part kicks in.  At least, that's my understanding.

  25th amendment, *section 4*. That's the one where the president is
removed from office by force, without his own consent.

  Has that ever happened in the history of the USA? (OTOH, the 25th
was introduced in the 60's or something, so there hasn't been all that
much history in the first place...)

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:49:23 -0500, Warp wrote:

>   OTOH, I assume that the US government does not impose the 25th,
> section 4 very lightly.

Not as lightly as in 24, certainly. ;-)

Personally, I'd like to see us implement it against the current president 
(and his VP) on the grounds of mental incompetence. ;-)

Jim

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>   OTOH, I assume that the US government does not impose the 25th,
>>> section 4 very lightly.
> 
>> Assuming you mean Ammendment 25, it happens fairly often. If the 
>> president dies, or goes in the hospital, or something like that, this 
>> part kicks in.  At least, that's my understanding.
> 
>   25th amendment, *section 4*. That's the one where the president is
> removed from office by force, without his own consent.

Yes. And the president can't give consent if he's in the middle of 
having a heart attack, or he has gotten into an accident and is 
unconcious, etc.

>   Has that ever happened in the history of the USA? (OTOH, the 25th
> was introduced in the 60's or something, so there hasn't been all that
> much history in the first place...)

There have been two impeachments (which is like being arrested at a 
trial) - Bill Clinton (for lying about Monica Lewinski) and um Andrew 
Jackson? Someone like President #5 or so, IIRC.

As far as I remember, we've never actually had to go so far as to kick a 
president out of office. Most resign before they're even impeached, for 
those who know they've done something seriously wrong. See Richard 
Nixon, Watergate Scandal, etc.

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> There have even been cases in the USA where someone writing fantasy 
>> stories in his personal diary about child porn gets arrested and jailed 
>> for it.
> 
>   IMO that's more a case of "that's just sick, he should be punished"
> instead of having a logical legal meaning.

Actually, IIRC, he had already been arrested for actually owning child 
porn once, and he wasn't allowed to own it again, or something. 
Certainly the "it harms the children" doesn't apply in that case.

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Seems that some people in Thailand have noticed the Finnish police
censoring the memorial page of a late Thai princess (age 84 in the
website photograph) as child porn. In Thailand, committing an act of
perjury towards a member of the royalty is punishable by 15 years of
imprisonment.

http://facthai.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/finland-labels-princess-galyani-portrait-kiddie-porn-effi/

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