>> Predictably, I haven't heard of most of those.
> 
> Most of them are classical composers.

I do enjoy certain forms of orchestral music. However, from what I can 
tell, most classical music isn't really to my taste.

>> Wait - there's a person on Earth apart from me who listens to Enigma?
>> Woah...
> 
> My brother introduced me.  I quite like it, though I haven't listened to 
> it a lot.

My best friend introduced me. Before she stopped talking to me...

Every time I listen, I end up wanting to turn off the light, take a deep 
breath, and light candles. Actually, last time I *did* light candles... 
hmm. LOL!

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> > Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> Well, no, *obviously* I've heard their music.
> >
> > good.  Now I don't know what amuses me the most:  that you can't
> > distinguish their  styles or that even being aquainted to Bach you're
> > still listening to that much crap from the recording industry...
>
> In fairness, early Mozart has a lot of the same elements that Bach does
> in terms of style, even though they're from different time periods.

oh, wait!  The Bach were talking about is the father, right?  But yes, early
Mozart owes a lot to Christian.  And early Beethoven to Mozart.  Influences,
admiration, the search of their own style, it's always the same thing for all.

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Ah, yes, I probably have.  Though I prefer the one from Gotterdammerung

I heard that from opera excerpts.  It's ok, but it lacks Chopin's characteristic
melancholy.

> or something like Saint-Saens' Danse Macabre. :-)

that's better off as Halloween music... ;)

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I'm assuming a piano arrangement thereof rather than the original organ 
version requiring foot pedals?


Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> 
>> Yes, that's roughly the response I was expecting. :-P
> 
> I can play a large section of Bach's Toccata and Fuge in D minor from 
> memory, if that makes it any better?
>

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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:16:22 -0500, nemesis wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> > Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> >> Well, no, *obviously* I've heard their music.
>> >
>> > good.  Now I don't know what amuses me the most:  that you can't
>> > distinguish their  styles or that even being aquainted to Bach you're
>> > still listening to that much crap from the recording industry...
>>
>> In fairness, early Mozart has a lot of the same elements that Bach does
>> in terms of style, even though they're from different time periods.
> 
> oh, wait!  The Bach were talking about is the father, right?  

Well, J. S., but we could also be talking about C. P. E. Bach or even PDQ 
Bach (which is also in my collection <g>)

> But yes,
> early Mozart owes a lot to Christian.  And early Beethoven to Mozart. 
> Influences, admiration, the search of their own style, it's always the
> same thing for all.

Yep.  To the untrained ear, it can be hard to tell the difference.  I 
played violin for some 15 years, so I have a bit more musical education 
than Andy does, I imagine.  I imagine the case is similar for you.

Jim

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Kevin Wampler wrote:
> I'm assuming a piano arrangement thereof rather than the original organ 
> version requiring foot pedals?

>> I can play a large section of Bach's Toccata and Fuge in D minor from 
>> memory, if that makes it any better?

Er... well, you know, move the octaves around a little. ;-)

Actually, my synthesizer does have a quite good pipe organ preset. 
Obviously it doesn't shake the floor around like the real thing, but it 
sounds quite pleasing.

I also have a Moog synthesizer recording round here somewhere. It's 
really quite good. Although the tape is quite chewed up by now. As was 
the LP I recorded it from. Damn, if only the thing was still on sale...

Every time I try to play that thing, I find myself trying to figure out 
if Bach was a madman or a genius. Seriously - how the hell did he 
*think* of this stuff??

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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:20:47 -0500, nemesis wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Ah, yes, I probably have.  Though I prefer the one from Gotterdammerung
> 
> I heard that from opera excerpts.  It's ok, but it lacks Chopin's
> characteristic melancholy.

Well, yes - Wagner was a bit louder, for one thing.  Still, Hagen's 
funeral march is quite spectacular, musically speaking.

>> or something like Saint-Saens' Danse Macabre. :-)
> 
> that's better off as Halloween music... ;)

True, true, and I can't believe I misspelled it (thanks for the silent 
spelling correction <g>).  After all, the disc is right here on my desk. 
<g>

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:

> Yep.  To the untrained ear, it can be hard to tell the difference.  I 
> played violin for some 15 years, so I have a bit more musical education 
> than Andy does, I imagine.  I imagine the case is similar for you.

Correct. I only played violin for 5 years.

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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:15:30 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>> Predictably, I haven't heard of most of those.
>> 
>> Most of them are classical composers.
> 
> I do enjoy certain forms of orchestral music. However, from what I can
> tell, most classical music isn't really to my taste.

Entirely possible, though I think it helps to know the story behind the 
music - a lot of it tells a story.  For example, Berlioz's _Symphonie 
Fantastique_ tells a story about a guy who is in love but can't make it 
work out.  He decides to take opium, and the music itself is inspired by 
the idea of the opium-induced dreams he had as a result.

The fourth movement ends with him having his head cut off by a 
guillotine.  If you know the story, you can actually hear his head bounce 
down the steps after the blade falls.

Then you get into the 5th movement, which is him in the afterlife.  It 
ain't pretty (and yet it is).

The really fun thing is listening to that on the local classical radio 
station; it's run by Brigham Young University, a university of the LDS 
Church.  It seems clear to me that the announcers really don't know the 
story behind the music, or they'd never play it on the air.

>>> Wait - there's a person on Earth apart from me who listens to Enigma?
>>> Woah...
>> 
>> My brother introduced me.  I quite like it, though I haven't listened
>> to it a lot.
> 
> My best friend introduced me. Before she stopped talking to me...
> 
> Every time I listen, I end up wanting to turn off the light, take a deep
> breath, and light candles. Actually, last time I *did* light candles...
> hmm. LOL!

Which album or albums do you have?

Jim

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Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Every time I try to play that thing, I find myself trying to figure out
> if Bach was a madman or a genius. Seriously - how the hell did he
> *think* of this stuff??

in this particular case, many scholars think it's not really a Bach work.  He
most probably adapted it to organ from some prior violin work...

If you think he's a madman for that one, wait until you hear some pieces from

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