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Gail Shaw wrote:
> You are behind the times
Oh good. That's new then...
> Selling music online is a huge industry. I-Tunes store is just one example.
> Amazon's started recently too.
Interesting...
Last time I heard, lots of conpanies *wanted* to start selling music
downloads, but nobody could think of a way of preventing everybody
pirating it, so they were all too scared to go down that route.
I'm still amused by one quote a read: "Trying to make data not copyable
is like trying to make water not wet."
So, how have they solved that apparently unsolvable problem then?
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Warp wrote:
>> So, what, you only listen to illegal music?
>
> Only illegal music can be transferred over the internet?
As a technological matter - no.
As a practical matter - I'm not aware of anybody who permits you to
obtain MP3s legally. (Or at least, MP3s of commercial music anyway.)
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Invisible wrote:
> Interesting...
>
> Last time I heard, lots of conpanies *wanted* to start selling music
> downloads, but nobody could think of a way of preventing everybody
> pirating it, so they were all too scared to go down that route.
See? This is what happens when you live under a rock ... Car radios get
more sophisticated, and can load up more than 10 albums to a single CD,
and people actually buy music off the internet, and you seem not to be
aware of these (not so) recent innovations.
> I'm still amused by one quote a read: "Trying to make data not copyable
> is like trying to make water not wet."
>
> So, how have they solved that apparently unsolvable problem then?
>
Well, the data is encrypted, of course, encryption is meant to be broken
...
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Invisible wrote:
>
> As a practical matter - I'm not aware of anybody who permits you to
> obtain MP3s legally. (Or at least, MP3s of commercial music anyway.)
>
I have albums in MP3 format that I obtained legally, then followed their
instructions on converting their proprietary format to MP3 so they can
play on my car stereo.
All legal, and all within the license agreement.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> See? This is what happens when you live under a rock ... Car radios get
> more sophisticated, and can load up more than 10 albums to a single CD,
> and people actually buy music off the internet, and you seem not to be
> aware of these (not so) recent innovations.
Hey, *I* buy music off the Internet. I just have to wait for a small
piece of silvered plastic to arrive in the post afterwards. ;-)
>> So, how have they solved that apparently unsolvable problem then?
>
> Well, the data is encrypted, of course, encryption is meant to be broken
More precisely: The encryption *must* be removed in order to *play* the
music. Therefore, this encryption must be trivially breakable, and
therefore it cannot prevent anybody pirating the music.
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
news:47ac757e@news.povray.org...
> Warp wrote:
>
> >> So, what, you only listen to illegal music?
> >
> > Only illegal music can be transferred over the internet?
>
> As a technological matter - no.
>
> As a practical matter - I'm not aware of anybody who permits you to
> obtain MP3s legally. (Or at least, MP3s of commercial music anyway.)
Amazon. Apple. To name just 2
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that's a huge big pile of ... ;)
Except perhaps for Kraftwerk.
Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Chopin and company are spread throughout my CDs and
brand-new HD...
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Invisible wrote:
> More precisely: The encryption *must* be removed in order to *play* the
> music. Therefore, this encryption must be trivially breakable, and
> therefore it cannot prevent anybody pirating the music.
Encryption, if it is decryptable, is therefore trivially decryptable?
Here kid, tell me what's in this file *without* knowing the key.
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Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com
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> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> CDs are old fashioned because people buy and download their crap music
>> to their iPods now (those fashionable white boxes you see various
>> teenagers walking around with) Music on CD has gone the way of the LP
>> record. :)
>
> Really? I wasn't aware it was possible to do that legally yet... oh,
> wait...
Yep, there's iTunes store and others, where you legally buy the digital
files. With DRM of course...
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Tim Cook wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> More precisely: The encryption *must* be removed in order to *play*
>> the music. Therefore, this encryption must be trivially breakable, and
>> therefore it cannot prevent anybody pirating the music.
>
> Encryption, if it is decryptable, is therefore trivially decryptable?
>
> Here kid, tell me what's in this file *without* knowing the key.
If you can play it, you must have the decryption key. Encrypted data
with the key right next to it might as well not be encrypted at all...
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