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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:18:34 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:42:29 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom>
> did spake, saying:
>
>> Phil Cook wrote:
>>> now it's - "please borrow money off us"
>>
>> ... which makes sense, when you realize that money is created by you
>> borrowing it. If everyone actually payed back everything they owed,
>> there would be no money left. Of course, that's mathematically
>> impossible, since people necessarily owe more than they can ever own.
>
> Which is why I'm always amused when I read the headlines deploring the
> fact that the population is in debt to the amount of £Xbn, that's how
> our econmy works now.
Thing that gets me is that what's good for individuals is bad for
business (and vice versa). For example, one company I worked for was
*proud* of being classified as a "late payer". On the personal finance
side, that just doesn't work - it kills your credit rating.
Jim
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On 12 Feb 2008 17:17:29 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
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>(Of course, he's back in CO Springs now, because it's near where his kids
>go to school and he goes to all their home basketball games - it probably
>helps that he's very successfully self-employed)
That reminds me. My wife, who reads a lot of contemporary American fiction wants
to know. Why and when did sport become so popular in America? By that I mean
children's sport, going to watch your kids play baseball etc. There is little
mention of it in earlier fiction. Little House on the Prairie hardly mentions
sport at all. Not it seams that you are a bad parent if you don't join in. Of
course this could be untrue. I remember when I was a kid very few parents and no
women would go to watch a school soccer match.
Regards
Stephen
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:31:52 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2008 17:17:29 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>
>>(Of course, he's back in CO Springs now, because it's near where his
>>kids go to school and he goes to all their home basketball games - it
>>probably helps that he's very successfully self-employed)
>
> That reminds me. My wife, who reads a lot of contemporary American
> fiction wants to know. Why and when did sport become so popular in
> America? By that I mean children's sport, going to watch your kids play
> baseball etc. There is little mention of it in earlier fiction. Little
> House on the Prairie hardly mentions sport at all. Not it seams that you
> are a bad parent if you don't join in. Of course this could be untrue. I
> remember when I was a kid very few parents and no women would go to
> watch a school soccer match.
I'm not really sure - I used to play softball, but I don't remember many
parents being there. I'd have to say the popularity grew a lot in the
last 20 years or so based on my experiences.
I think part of it is frustration with professional sports; I know I hate
going to, say, a pro baseball game these days. The players just play so
well there's no unpredictability in the game play-by-play.
Minor league games are a blast, though. I assume it's similar for junior
leagues.
Jim
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And lo on Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:21:35 -0000, Jim Henderson
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:30:18 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
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>> Sod love, inertia's the most powerful human motivation :-)
>
> I think it's ambivalence. :-)
Meh, I don't know :-)
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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On 12 Feb 2008 17:49:58 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>I'm not really sure - I used to play softball, but I don't remember many
>parents being there. I'd have to say the popularity grew a lot in the
>last 20 years or so based on my experiences.
>
>I think part of it is frustration with professional sports; I know I hate
>going to, say, a pro baseball game these days. The players just play so
>well there's no unpredictability in the game play-by-play.
>
>Minor league games are a blast, though. I assume it's similar for junior
>leagues.
Thanks for the insight. I'm not a sports fan so it seems strange to me and my
wife wants to point out that she reads adult books too :)
Regards
Stephen
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And lo on Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:22:42 -0000, Jim Henderson
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:18:34 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> And lo on Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:42:29 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
>> did spake, saying:
>>
>>> Phil Cook wrote:
>>>> now it's - "please borrow money off us"
>>>
>>> ... which makes sense, when you realize that money is created by you
>>> borrowing it. If everyone actually payed back everything they owed,
>>> there would be no money left. Of course, that's mathematically
>>> impossible, since people necessarily owe more than they can ever own.
>>
>> Which is why I'm always amused when I read the headlines deploring the
>> our econmy works now.
>
> Thing that gets me is that what's good for individuals is bad for
> business (and vice versa). For example, one company I worked for was
> *proud* of being classified as a "late payer". On the personal finance
> side, that just doesn't work - it kills your credit rating.
'Hey we've just fired everyone and our share price has increased' Don't
see many politicial policies trying to split up families now do you :-)
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:10:55 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2008 17:49:58 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>>I'm not really sure - I used to play softball, but I don't remember many
>>parents being there. I'd have to say the popularity grew a lot in the
>>last 20 years or so based on my experiences.
>>
>>I think part of it is frustration with professional sports; I know I
>>hate going to, say, a pro baseball game these days. The players just
>>play so well there's no unpredictability in the game play-by-play.
>>
>>Minor league games are a blast, though. I assume it's similar for
>>junior leagues.
>
> Thanks for the insight. I'm not a sports fan so it seems strange to me
> and my wife wants to point out that she reads adult books too :)
I'm not much of a sports fan myself; I like the occasional baseball game
and occasionally watch football (not US football, real football - what we
Americans call "Soccer") when the mood strikes us.
Can't remember the last basketball or hockey game I went to. Well I've
only been to one hockey game; sat in the box with a former pro player
who, when I asked about the game (needed something to talk about), he
said "do you know how basketball is played?" "Yeah" "well, it's
essentially the same, but played on ice with nets and a puck. There are
a lot of differences, but all you need to know is the same stuff you need
to know to enjoy a basketball game."
IOW, not terribly helpful information, but it was different.
Jim
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:57:06 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:21:35 -0000, Jim Henderson
> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:30:18 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>>
>>> Sod love, inertia's the most powerful human motivation :-)
>>
>> I think it's ambivalence. :-)
>
> Meh, I don't know :-)
<shrug>
Jim
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:36:03 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>> Thing that gets me is that what's good for individuals is bad for
>> business (and vice versa). For example, one company I worked for was
>> *proud* of being classified as a "late payer". On the personal finance
>> side, that just doesn't work - it kills your credit rating.
>
> 'Hey we've just fired everyone and our share price has increased' Don't
> see many politicial policies trying to split up families now do you :-)
Ain't that the truth...And to think, I could've fired one of the cats. ;-)
Jim
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On 13 Feb 2008 12:38:15 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
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>I'm not much of a sports fan myself; I like the occasional baseball game
>and occasionally watch football (not US football, real football - what we
>Americans call "Soccer") when the mood strikes us.
A couple of years ago I went to Pittsburgh for work and was given the
opportunity to go to a baseball game. Povray won, hands down :)
The last soccer game I went to (20 years ago) I took a book and my walkman.
Regards
Stephen
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