"Rune" <aut### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
> I have the same problem.
....
>
> This is my biggest fear when I'm going to the Game Developers Conference in
> San Francisco in two weeks time: That I'll find myself utterly unable to
> understand what most people are saying ...

> Rune
> --
> http://runevision.com

Dude, the good news is that you can understand approximately 70% of the speech
patterns of the typical native San Franciscan by mastering a single term.

The bad news is...
http://www.pitt.edu/%7Ekiesling/dude/dude.pdf

Like Best Regards, Dude

Mike C.

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"Mike the Elder" <SPELL: wrote:
> http://www.pitt.edu/%7Ekiesling/dude/dude.pdf

whoa!  and to think I learned the term from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...
:)

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nemesis wrote:
> "Mike the Elder" <SPELL: wrote:
>> http://www.pitt.edu/%7Ekiesling/dude/dude.pdf
> 
> whoa!  and to think I learned the term from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...
> :)

	Radical!

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too late." - Frank Sinatra


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Warp wrote:
> Gilles Tran <gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> Required Skills:
>>     * C/C++
>>     * Linux (RedHat/Centos)
>>     * 3d graphics math
>>     * OpenGL and graphics cards
> 
>   That's a very tempting job offer, but such job offers always crash
> because of one thing: They require fluent spoken English skills and good
> communication skills.

	Are you saying they always *really* require it, or that they just *say*
they require it?

	I'd say try anyway. A lot of people over here hire folks with great
technical skills and poor verbal skills (and poor grammatical skills,
and often poor writing skills). I'm referring to a portion of the
foreign students here.

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too late." - Frank Sinatra


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And lo on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:43:13 -0000,  did spake, saying:

> Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
<snip>
> Best Regards,
> Mike C.

Just FYI showing up on Opera as a blank name probably because of this -

From: "Mike the Elder" <SPELL:

it don't like them thar pointy things.

-- 
Phil Cook

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:47:40 EST, "Mike the Elder" <SPELL: wrote:

>
>The bad news is...
>http://www.pitt.edu/%7Ekiesling/dude/dude.pdf

Thank you :)


Regards
	Stephen

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"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> And lo on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:43:13 -0000,  did spake, saying:
>
> > Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Best Regards,
> > Mike C.
>
> Just FYI showing up on Opera as a blank name probably because of this -
>
> From: "Mike the Elder" <SPELL:
>
> it don't like them thar pointy things.
>
> --
> Phil Cook

I removed the whole thing to be sure the offending bit would go. I never typed a
"<", the site threw it in.  I believe it may have been the colon that caused the
problem.  I'll get around to creating a signature with a properly bot-proof
reference to my email eventually.  Thanks for the heads up.

Best Regards,
Mike C.

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Warp wrote:
> I estimate that in 3-4 months I would be able to speak English quite fluently. 

It also helps tremendously if you have someone who *is* a native speaker 
actively helping you out, pointing out your mispronunciations and odd 
word choices and such, methinks. At least, that's my experience.

>   I have already been turned down from a software developer job at Ubisoft
> because of this. I would have otherwise been more than qualified.

That sucks. Sorry to hear that.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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Mike the Elder wrote:
> Dude, the good news is that you can understand approximately 70% of the speech
> patterns of the typical native San Franciscan by mastering a single term.

Frighteningly true. :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?

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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> 	I'd say try anyway. A lot of people over here hire folks with great
> technical skills and poor verbal skills (and poor grammatical skills,
> and often poor writing skills). I'm referring to a portion of the
> foreign students here.

I don't know where "over here" is, but my experience in the USA is that 
most of the technical *and marketing* people here have poor grammatical 
and writing skills.

If you apply for the job, you might consider offering to take a couple 
weeks of private night classes to brush up on problem areas, if that's 
the sort of thing that would help.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?

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