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From: nemesis
Subject: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:05:28
Message: <479a08c8$1@news.povray.org>
ok, after getting fed up with either the news.povray.org web interface or 
our proxy, I got to finally try out some newsgroups clients.

At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the task. 
 Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked downloads
of executables.  That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible to 
install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
requests.  Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as 
well, so I felt out of options.  except...

except that I have the hateful Lotus Notes here.  Hate it, but found out 
that it does newsgroups as well.  Well, here I am!  does it look good to 
you?
if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:16:33
Message: <479a0b61@news.povray.org>

> does it look good to you?
> if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D

Looks good enough, but you're posting in HTML. See if you can find a way 
to post in plain text only.

*Any* newsreader will be better (and a *lot* faster) than any web 
interface :)


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:27:50
Message: <479a0e06@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the 
> task.  Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked 
> downloads
> of executables.  That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible 
> to install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
> requests.  Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as 
> well, so I felt out of options.  except...

Those darned admins.  At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I 
can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:42:02
Message: <479a115a$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/25 11:05:
> 
> ok, after getting fed up with either the news.povray.org web interface 
> or our proxy, I got to finally try out some newsgroups clients.
> 
> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the 
> task.  Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked 
> downloads
> of executables.  That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible 
> to install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
> requests.  Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as 
> well, so I felt out of options.  except...
> 
> except that I have the hateful Lotus Notes here.  Hate it, but found out 
> that it does newsgroups as well.  Well, here I am!  does it look good to 
> you?
> if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D
Have you tryed "cheating"?
Request an executable, but ask to save it as, say, a JPG, or DOC, or PPS file, 
or some other extention...
Or, from home, upload it on any file sharing site, but with some custom 
extention. You then retreive it from your work computer. Once you have it, just 
rename with the correct extention.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
You know you've been raytracing too long when your personal correspondence to 
friends starts out with #Dear Linda =
Ken Tyler


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:45:01
Message: <web.479a10ebade975519dc085130@news.povray.org>
> Those darned admins.  At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
> can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(

^^
They want you to work at work. ;)
No, I'm not an admin. Don't attack me. ^^

   bluetree


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:46:01
Message: <479a1249@news.povray.org>
except so far I've been enable to get Notes to cite messages and it 
searches the entire (limited to 1000 messages) catalog everytime I click 
on a "folder"... :/


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:50:00
Message: <web.479a12fbade975519dc085130@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> ok, after getting fed up with either the news.povray.org web interface or
> our proxy, I got to finally try out some newsgroups clients.
>
> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the task.
>  Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked downloads
> of executables.  That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible to
> install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
> requests.  Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as
> well, so I felt out of options.  except...
>
> except that I have the hateful Lotus Notes here.  Hate it, but found out
> that it does newsgroups as well.  Well, here I am!  does it look good to
> you?
> if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D

I'm not sure, if they block any connection, but couldn't you use thunderbird
portable on a usb-drive or something like that?
It is legible, so it's also ok this way.

               bluetree


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:50:13
Message: <479a1345$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:05:28 -0500, nemesis wrote:

> does it look good to
> you?

No, because it's posting both text and HTML. <barf>

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:51:28
Message: <479a1390$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:27:48 -0800, Chambers wrote:

> nemesis wrote:
>> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the
>> task.  Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked
>> downloads
>> of executables.  That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible
>> to install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block
>> http requests.  Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked
>> ftp as well, so I felt out of options.  except...
> 
> Those darned admins.  At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
> can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(

http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html

I've used this myself when I absolutely needed the ability to use NNTP 
and the port was blocked.

Jim


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: new news client
Date: 25 Jan 2008 11:59:43
Message: <479a157f$1@news.povray.org>
executables are blocked in the proxy server.  You don't get a chance to 
save as anything, all you get is a standard blocked screen or 
time out in the case of ftp.  I actually downloaded the Windows version of 
Thunderbird yesterday and zipped with the same name plus zip sufix.
Well, it turns out that Gmail identified it as Mime type application/zip 
and the proxy either got that or simply scanned the whole name for exe and
found it.

How dumb am I getting or are the admins getting too smart? :P

I'm quite sure this Lotus newsgroups thing won't last much..  BTW, I think 
I succeeded in turning messages to text only.  is that right?


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