executables are blocked in the proxy server.  You don't get a chance to 
save as anything, all you get is a standard blocked screen or 
time out in the case of ftp.  I actually downloaded the Windows version of 
Thunderbird yesterday and zipped with the same name plus zip sufix.
Well, it turns out that Gmail identified it as Mime type application/zip 
and the proxy either got that or simply scanned the whole name for exe and
found it.

How dumb am I getting or are the admins getting too smart? :P

I'm quite sure this Lotus newsgroups thing won't last much..  BTW, I think 
I succeeded in turning messages to text only.  is that right?

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