http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM

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Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM

  There's one cool insight (well known, but still cool) there: Even modern
music is based in the exact same principles as music over 300 years old.

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Warp wrote:
>   There's one cool insight (well known, but still cool) there: Even modern
> music is based in the exact same principles as music over 300 years old.


Depending, of course, on which modern music one is referring to :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hNl_skTZQ

But I understand your point, and it is sort of cool.

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"Kevin Wampler" wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>>   There's one cool insight (well known, but still cool) there: Even 
>> modern
>> music is based in the exact same principles as music over 300 years old.
>
> Depending, of course, on which modern music one is referring to :-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hNl_skTZQ
>
> But I understand your point, and it is sort of cool.

Agreed and all, but that video there is pretty cool too! I don't listen to 
noise music as such (don't even know if this one here is actually in that 
genre) but elements like these often appear in music I hear, combined with 

mind.)

Rune
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Warp wrote:
> Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM
> 
>   There's one cool insight (well known, but still cool) there: Even modern
> music is based in the exact same principles as music over 300 years old.

My brother was telling me about a book he read that I have on order 
right now. "This is your brain on music" by Levitin. He studies the 
neurology of what happens when you listen to music. And then he 
illustrates it with examples from popular music (like the Beatles, not 
Pachelbel. :-) He's not a nerd, so it's probably pretty readable. If 
you're interested in this stuff, the wiring of why the principles work 
is likely to be fascinating. I just need to get my copy. :-)

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Rune wrote:
> "Kevin Wampler" wrote:
> Agreed and all, but that video there is pretty cool too! 

I like it as well, part of the reason I linked it (written in 1958 by 
the way!).  The composer,Ligeti, is actually one of the more classical 
composers of the latter half of the 20th century.  In fact, you've 
probably heard other music of his without knowing it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBT__4ldjAs

I'll admit that it took me a bit of effort to learn to enjoy listening 
to this sort of music, but I've ultimately found it to be very worth it.

> I don't listen to 
> noise music as such (don't even know if this one here is actually in that 
> genre) but elements like these often appear in music I hear, combined with 

> mind.)


I'll take a look at them, it sounds like interesting music, and though 
I've been meaning to I haven't really listened to much noise music.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> "This is your brain on music" by Levitin. He studies the
> neurology of what happens when you listen to music. And then he
> illustrates it with examples from popular music (like the Beatles, not
> Pachelbel. :-)

you know, that title seems to say absolutely nothing.  Nobody listen/reacts to
music in the same way.  In particular, someone who digs rap is not likely to
take a kick out of Mozart.  People in general have a real hard time trying to
follow or understand the complicated developments, multiple voices and harmony
of western classical music tradition.  Anything with more than an easy melody,
no percusion and no videoclip is best avoided...

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Kevin Wampler wrote:

> I like it as well, part of the reason I linked it (written in 1958 by 
> the way!).  The composer,Ligeti, is actually one of the more classical 
> composers of the latter half of the 20th century. 

It seems I left out the word "influential" between "classical" and 
"composer", which sort of rendered that sentence nonsensical.

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Kevin Wampler <wampler+pov### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote:
> I'll admit that it took me a bit of effort to learn to enjoy listening 
> to this sort of music, but I've ultimately found it to be very worth it.

  It's the kind of music which works well in certain types of movies,
but it's quite hard to listen all by itself.

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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Kevin Wampler <wampler+pov### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote:
> > I'll admit that it took me a bit of effort to learn to enjoy listening
> > to this sort of music, but I've ultimately found it to be very worth it.
>
>   It's the kind of music which works well in certain types of movies,
> but it's quite hard to listen all by itself.

yes, it worked well for Lygeti in 2001.  Out of it, it just sound like lots of
violins or voices moaning senselessly... atonal music is a dead-end...

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