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From: scott
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 03:18:41
Message: <478c6c61$1@news.povray.org>
> Apparently, I don't get the job.

You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if 
they haven't already).  They might give you some useful information or 
pointers.  Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 04:38:24
Message: <478c7f10$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Apparently, I don't get the job.
> 
> You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if 
> they haven't already).  They might give you some useful information or 
> pointers.  Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.

Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)

Well anyway, in this case I would suspect it's because I don't have X 
years of commercial programming experience as stipulated by the advert, 
and they found else somebody who does. I figured I probably wouldn't get 
it back when I applied - but you gotta try these things.

Still really impressed that they bothered to write back. No employer has 
ever done that before... [And they sent a *letter*, which costs actuall 
money, rather than just sending an email. They even hand-signed it...]

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 04:39:20
Message: <478c7f48@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:

> Hey, congrats on hearing back!  Did he give you any useful advice?

Not really, no. Just the standard "unfortunately you have not been 
selected. Thank you for your continued interest in our company and we 
wish you every success in your future endevours" or something.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 05:07:59
Message: <478c85ff@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> > Apparently, I don't get the job.

> You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if 
> they haven't already).  They might give you some useful information or 
> pointers.  Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.

  Are you talking about UK law or something else?

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From: scott
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 06:11:25
Message: <478c94dd@news.povray.org>
>> You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if
>> they haven't already).  They might give you some useful information or
>> pointers.  Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.
>
>  Are you talking about UK law or something else?

UK law - don't know whether it comes from some EU law though.  Probably some 
human rights thingy about an employer having to reveal their reasoning for 
not choosing you so you know there was no illegal discrimination involved. 
If the employer won't give you a legal reason then you can take them to some 
employment tribunal where the real reason will be exposed and they could be 
punished if it's illegal.

Obivously only in very rare occasions does that happen, most employers will 
be happy to give you a brief reasoning straight away if you take the effort 
to write to them.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 06:17:12
Message: <478c9638@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

>>  Are you talking about UK law or something else?
> 
> UK law - don't know whether it comes from some EU law though.  Probably 
> some human rights thingy about an employer having to reveal their 
> reasoning for not choosing you so you know there was no illegal 
> discrimination involved. If the employer won't give you a legal reason 
> then you can take them to some employment tribunal where the real reason 
> will be exposed and they could be punished if it's illegal.
> 
> Obivously only in very rare occasions does that happen, most employers 
> will be happy to give you a brief reasoning straight away if you take 
> the effort to write to them.

Mmm. How interesting...

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 08:08:30
Message: <t1cpo31hs8cviva4uqtjqmaa5hnmclb818@4ax.com>
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:17:11 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>> Obivously only in very rare occasions does that happen, most employers 
>> will be happy to give you a brief reasoning straight away if you take 
>> the effort to write to them.
>
>Mmm. How interesting...

And if you apply through an agency they should get the feedback and pass it on
to you. 
Besides helping you to understand what the company were looking for, it might
bring you to their attention as someone who is interested in working for them.
Who knows what might turn up?

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 08:55:10
Message: <478cbb3e$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
> 
> Some of you may know I sent them an electronic copy of my CV in early 
> December after seeing an advert in the local newspaper. I suspected I'd 
> never hear from them ever again.
> 
> But wait. I just opened a letter [yes, they *paid* to reply to me].
> 
> Apparently, I don't get the job.
> 


I once went for a second interview (like only 2-3 people made it) and 
never heard back.  I should have called, but the manager didn't impress 
me at all.  It didn't surprise me that I didn't hear back.



Tom


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 09:28:32
Message: <jmgpo31g7nrvqkgdjcsk2h1pr097d8h0j5@4ax.com>
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:24:44 -0700, "somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote:

>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>
>I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
>

That's an interesting response, given that your username is "somebody".


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 09:47:01
Message: <478cc765$1@news.povray.org>
>>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>> I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
> 
> That's an interesting response, given that your username is "somebody".

ROFL!

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