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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 9 Jan 2008 11:55:00
Message: <4784fc64@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>>  3 was good, I liked the puzzle-bombing concept, but it all fell apart 
>> a bit towards the end. 
> 
> Disagree. The end is what made it all worthwhile: that there was 
> something other than just mad-bomber puzzles going on.

Yeah, it definitely needed something else, but it just felt like two 
different stories shoe-horned into one movie for me.

>> Number 4 was surprisingly good but there was too much to-ing and fro-ing.
> 
> Four with the power grid bit? That was awful. The hacker characters knew 
> way too much about what was going on. For example, why would the 
> computers at the electrical substation know what valves were opening and 
> closing in the gas pipes in the next city over?  Dumb stuff like that 
> kept pulling me out of it.

Well, surprisingly good is only a relative term! I did find most of the 
plot devices pretty silly to be honest. Sounds like you had the same 
sort of problems with this one as I had with the second one.


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 9 Jan 2008 12:35:00
Message: <web.478505098e8dcbc3d30d1e600@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> gregjohn wrote:
>
>> Episode Three is a fascinating study in fascism and
>> indoctrination of the political and religious stripe.
>
> Erm... if I knew what you're talking about, maybe I'd agree.
>


The scene where Palpatine and Annikin watch a movie that looks like something
made by (our own) Dennis Miller.  Palpatine engages in some political/
religious brainwashing there.  It is so moving to me, if only because I've had
someone in my own congregation who looks like that try the same thing to a
group of us, to get us to join up in one particular sect he favored.  The
gentle tone, with a touch of humor if only to show something oh-so serious....

I'd heard that Lucas was hospitalized with heart troubles when the first one
almost didn't make production schedule.  You go through **THAT**, almost die
for something, and it turns out to be a massive financial success: yeah, I
might sit on by butt for Episodes 5,6,1,2,3  and let a studio make up something
half-heartedly in tune with the great storytelling vision of my youth, too.



Darren:

>... Palentine ...

Uh, is that a misspelling of Palestine or Palpatine??  :-)
I can easily see America post 9/11.  Who's whom if you're talking about
Palestine?


> ... Wallace...
I'd put the Wallace trilogy in my top 12 favorite films, but the last two have
some over-done polish that "A Grand Day Out" does not.


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 9 Jan 2008 19:36:22
Message: <47856886@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> I am curios though... I thought the original Star Wars was from the
> 1970s, whereas the film Alien was from 1985 or so?

	Aliens was from 1986. Alien was the earlier one.

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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 9 Jan 2008 19:41:06
Message: <478569a2$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Actually, thinking about it, the same goes for Pirates of the Carribean. 
>>
>>   I found the second movie quite hard to follow.
> 
> I've heard quite a few people say this. I didn't find it so,
> particularly...

	2nd was OK. I only really enjoyed the 1st one. As a totally non-serious
movie.

	For me, Shrek 2 had its moments, but not good enough for me to want to
watch the 3rd.

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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 10 Jan 2008 02:33:53
Message: <4785ca61$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   The Star Wars movies, especially the first one... I just don't like it.

Honestly, I think I've just outgrown them.  The only one I still 
consider worth watching is "Empire Strikes Back", which is definitely 
the most thoughtful piece of the set.

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 10 Jan 2008 02:35:49
Message: <4785cad5$1@news.povray.org>
gregjohn wrote:
> Episode Three is a fascinating study in fascism and indoctrination of the
> political and religious stripe.

If by "fascinating study" you mean "fairly obvious and shallow".

Ooh, let's show a dictator curbing civil rights!  That must make it a 
deep movie, right?

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www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 10 Jan 2008 02:38:55
Message: <4785cb8f$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Well, I've seen films where the sequal is *better* than the original 
> too. (Off the top of my head... Shrek. Pirates of the Carribean. Die Hard.)

No way, the original "Die Hard" was definitely the best!  It actually 
gave you a sense that this was an ordinary cop in a crummy situation (a 
few key stunts aside), rather than Rambo with a badge for the whole movie.

And was anyone else bothered by the Raptor in "Live Free or Die Hard"? 
While I'll openly admit not having access to a real one to check, I'd be 
very surprised if it used a single rotor to hover the way it was shown 
in the movie (how do they keep it stable?  Helicopters at least have 
tail rotors to counter the torque...)

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...Ben Chambers
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 10 Jan 2008 05:42:28
Message: <4785f694$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>> I am curios though... I thought the original Star Wars was from the
>> 1970s, whereas the film Alien was from 1985 or so?
> 
> 	Aliens was from 1986. Alien was the earlier one.

Well, yes, there were several films, but I thought they were *all* from 
about the same time...

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 10 Jan 2008 06:55:54
Message: <478607ca@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>         For me, Shrek 2 had its moments, but not good enough for me to want to
> watch the 3rd.

  You should watch the third for the graphics. They are cool.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Jeff Wayne
Date: 10 Jan 2008 07:03:52
Message: <478609a8@news.povray.org>
Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> And was anyone else bothered by the Raptor in "Live Free or Die Hard"? 

  It wasn't a Raptor, but a F-35B Lightning II. It's described here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35_Lightning_II#F-35B

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