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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > Unbreakable wasn't bad, but it wasn't overly good
> Way, *way* too long. If they'd chopped out 40 minutes or so, it would
> have been excellent.
I disagree. If they had chopped 40 minutes then it would simply have
been a regular hollywood blockbuster.
If you want depth in a movie, you need to spend time with your characters.
You can see lack of depth in most hollywood blockbusters. They are too short,
they don't develop their characters, it's just fast food, not a delicate
cuisine.
(One relatively recent prime example of this was IMO the first Fantastic4
movie: It was *way* too short, it didn't develop its characters *at all*,
and in the end it felt completely hollow. Like a cheap fast food ration.)
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I mean, hell, Jabba the hut had more personality than Queen Amanda.
I thought it was Amidala, or something like that.
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Rune <aut### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
> "Warp" wrote:
> > As far as I remember, there has been only one movie which I have seen
> > twice in a movie theater (and I paid the ticket myself both times), but
> > I'm too ashamed to tell which... :P
> It was Titanic!
Nope. I own that movie on DVD. No shame in that.
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Warp wrote:
> (One relatively recent prime example of this was IMO the first Fantastic4
> movie: It was *way* too short, it didn't develop its characters *at all*,
> and in the end it felt completely hollow. Like a cheap fast food ration.)
Funny, that's exactly what the preview made it look like, and the reason
I didn't see it.
Now, if someone had told me that the characters had some depth to them,
I would have been interested. But I don't need anymore celluloid Big
Macs, thank you very much.
For that matter, I don't need anymore beef Big Macs either... we're
trying to cut out fast food for the whole year. It's been a little more
than a week, and I'm having serious cravings...
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Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> For that matter, I don't need anymore beef Big Macs either... we're
> trying to cut out fast food for the whole year. It's been a little more
> than a week, and I'm having serious cravings...
I assume you have seen "Big Size Me"?-)
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Chambers wrote:
> My cats act as if I am so irredeemably beneath their intellect that it's
> not worth their time to even contemplate speaking to me :)
Yes. That's what cats do.
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Chambers wrote:
> I actually like all of his movies, though The Village and Lady in the
> Water aren't his best. Personally, Unbreakable and Signs are my favorites.
Interesting. Of all his movies, I think The Village and Lady In The
Water are my favourites! Although I think Unbreakable is excellent too.
I think his movies are often maligned somewhat unfairly, either by
people who spend half the film looking for the twist and then saying it
was crap because they spotted it (boasting), or people who spend half
the film looking for the twist and then saying they didn't spot it
because it was a crap twist (defensive). Both categories entirely fail
to get anything from the movie as a result. Poor fools. This is one
reason I like Lady In The Water particularly, because it's entirely
without a twist.
I never spot twists in films anyway; I long ago learnt to concentrate on
the 'now' in a film and immerse myself without trying to think ahead.
This way, I get maximum enjoyment from it (twists are supposed to be
unexpected, after all).
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:09:03 -0800, Darren New wrote:
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>> That, and the acting sucked. Which is hard to blame on the actors, given
>> how it was filmed.
>
> And the fact that the scripts generally sucked. There wasn't a lot for
> the actors to work with, since most of the budget was blown on the
> effects.
I think the actors tried hard, but the script, as you say, was sub-par.
Additionally, Lucas wasn't interested in honing dialogue or shooting
any re-takes at all (except for completely fluffed lines, sets falling
over etc). Consequently, the action and effects are awesome but the
actual character interaction feels really fake and unbelievable.
> It isn't about fan expectations - I went in with no expectations, and
> still I was disappointed.
I went in with mixed feelings, but I was pleasantly surprised. That
suggests I was expecting to be disappointed...!
I like all the Star Wars films, but I'll be the first to admit that
they're all seriously flawed in one way or another. Except maybe ESB.
Bill
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Warp wrote:
> Rune <aut### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
>> "Warp" wrote:
>>> As far as I remember, there has been only one movie which I have seen
>>> twice in a movie theater (and I paid the ticket myself both times), but
>>> I'm too ashamed to tell which... :P
>
>> It was Titanic!
If there's shame in that, then I share it, cos I saw that three times in
the cinema. I went with different people, but enjoyed it each time.
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Jim Henderson wrote:
>> I thought 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' was good. Enough to perhaps even
>> deserve a second watching at some point.
>
> Never saw it.
It's a good laugh. Good action, pleasantly trivial story, and some
cracking dialogue from Sam Jackson.
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