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Warp wrote:
> Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouth net> wrote:
>> "ho hum, I don't
>> really like these immigrants, they're taking our jobs and diluting our
>> culture the way cultures have been being diluted and turned into what
>> are really other cultures since forever"
>
> Btw, I find this cliche quite curious, given that the real problem is
> more or less the exact opposite.
I expect immigration in earlier decades in the USA differ from modern
immigration in Europe (and possibly the USA).
Earlier generations in the USA wanted to be Americans, not Irish or
Germans or whatever living in America. Both my sets of grandparents
refused to teach their children (my parents) their native languages, as
they wanted the kids to learn English well so as to better integrate,
for example.
Nowadays, the Mexican immigrants around here (20 miles north of Mexico)
want their kids to learn English, and the prejudiced fools who think
Mexicans can't learn try to pass laws making it required to teach school
classes in spanish.
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Tim Cook wrote:
> "Racism and xenophobia will mean belief in race colour, descent,
> religion or belief, national or ethnic origin as a factor determining
> aversion to individuals.
> * directing of a racist or xenophobic group (by "group" is meant a
> structured organisation consisting of at least two persons established
> for a specific period).
Cool. So, like, the fact that the Baptists think I'm going to Hell means
they can be criminally prosecuted for getting up on their pulpit and
telling people that? When the Jehova Witnesses come around to bug me, I
can have them arrested?
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Warp wrote:
> I oppose immigration policies which result in segregation and animosity
> between groups. Careless immigration policies just do that, and the worst
> thing is that the people who pass those immigration policies can't see it.
Basically, you oppose immigration policies which, in the name of
reducing racism, actually encourage racism. :-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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Warp wrote:
> Tim Attwood <tim### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
>> The one that scares me is "permanent disqualification from
>> the practice of commercial activities", they'll keep you from
>> ever having any job ever?
>
> I suppose it's good from their point of view that the EU doesn't have
> pesky things like the eighth amendment of the US constitution.
Or the first amendment, I suppose. :-)
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Nowadays, the Mexican immigrants around here (20 miles north of Mexico)
> want their kids to learn English, and the prejudiced fools who think
> Mexicans can't learn try to pass laws making it required to teach school
> classes in spanish.
That's one of the contradictory thinking I have never understood:
On one hand they (ie. multiculturalists) complain how difficult the
hosting society is making it for the immigrants to integrate, but then,
on the other hand, they demand all kinds of special arrangements, such
as teaching in the immigrant's own language in schools, which can only
cause difficulties in integration.
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- Warp
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > I oppose immigration policies which result in segregation and animosity
> > between groups. Careless immigration policies just do that, and the worst
> > thing is that the people who pass those immigration policies can't see it.
> Basically, you oppose immigration policies which, in the name of
> reducing racism, actually encourage racism. :-)
Some people have presented the theory that many prominent
multiculturalists, even if only at a subconscious level, *don't want*
racism to stop. They want racism to be perpetuated. That's because
if racism was somehow completely eliminated, their own purpose would
cease to exist as well. They would become obsolete. Their "15 minutes
of fame" would end.
That's the reason why they are so desperate to find symptoms of
racism everywhere, even at places where there is none. If everything
else fails, then they claim people at least *think* in a racist way
(which in their view is a thoughtcrime, of course) even if they don't
show it in any way.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Or the first amendment, I suppose. :-)
"Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want."
If it doesn't mean that, then what does it mean then?
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- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Or the first amendment, I suppose. :-)
>
> "Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want."
>
> If it doesn't mean that, then what does it mean then?
It means you don't have to pay for it.
*ducks*
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http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com
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Warp wrote:
> Some people have presented the theory that many prominent
> multiculturalists, even if only at a subconscious level, *don't want*
> racism to stop. They want racism to be perpetuated. That's because
> if racism was somehow completely eliminated, their own purpose would
> cease to exist as well. They would become obsolete. Their "15 minutes
> of fame" would end.
This somehow reminds me of the Swedish movie Kopps, in which cops of a
small town start making crimes to make themself needed and to keep
theier jobs.
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Warp nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/01 05:25:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Or the first amendment, I suppose. :-)
>
> "Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want."
>
> If it doesn't mean that, then what does it mean then?
>
Freedom of speech stops when you start telling lies, or you throw around false
accusations or start difaming peoples. You can use freedom of speech, but you
can't abuse it.
Like for any freedom, your freedom stop where your neibour's freedom start.
Also, with every freedom comes some duty and obligations.
--
Alain
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Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened.
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