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Darren New wrote:
> It's really *easy*, ya know. :-)
>
Not if you are googlephobic!
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"Darren New" <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
> > Actually Darren wrote that, but thanks for the vote of confidence.
>
> I'm not sure what I wrote, but I don't think it was anything there
> quoted. :-)
Thread go so branched, I couldn't work out who said what and where. I knew I
didn't say it though.
> I've done a bunch of SQL Server, too. MySql for Linux, SQL Server for
> Windows. Depends on the technology talking to the server. I tend not to
> use a lot of the fancy stuff that isn't particularly portable (enforcing
> privs in the database, returning multiple tables from a query, etc),
My stuff (fortunatly) doesn't need to be portable, so I can go as fansy as I
like.
> and
> I don't tend to do a whole lot of DBA infrastructure things myself (like
> setting up hot fall-over spares etc).
Me neither. *shudder* I joke that if asked to backup a database, I'd have to
check the manual for the syntax. I'm more a developer that specialises in
performance tuning. Is fun, most days
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Tom Galvin wrote:
> Why reinvent the wheel?
I was hoping that if I make it simple enough, it will be impossible to
misconfigure it. ;-)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> University != experience.
True. But my point is that I'm not entirely clueless about what
databases are and how they work. I actually know stuff about this stuff.
> You say that as if you're the only person here who did database courses at
> university. You're not.
I just object to being told I know nothing about databases when actually
I do. I don't claim to be a world-renound expert, but I do know *something*.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Right. Apparently you have a different idea of "application" to what I
>> have...
>
> A program to organize your CD collection counts as an application.
Indeed. A different kind of application to the idea I have in mind. :-)
--
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> So why are you asking newbie questions about ODBC
Because I'm not familiar with that particular technology, and I thought
somebody else here might be. (And I was right...)
> and keep having these
> far-out opinions about things you are visibly ignorant about?
I see. So thinking that transactions matter is "far-out" and "visibly
ingorant"?
> Why can't you
> find the information by yourself? How much difficult it is to actually look
> up the MySQL (or Word, or whatever software or thing baffles you) manual to
> verify your claims?
Um... I did? [At least, I read the MySQL manual, and spent some time
using it.]
> How difficult it is to actually listen to what
> professionals like Darren and Tom and Gail are telling you?
When somebody says "oh yeah, transactions aren't really all that
important" when I spent 4 months learning about how important
transactions are, I have to think "hmm, who is right here?"
> I told you
> before: be ignorant is all right, being and acting clueless much less so. If
> you want to be taken seriously (and expect more than snarky replies in the
> future), don't act like a 15-year old script kiddie.
Some days I wonder why I talk at all...
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> "Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:476457f1$1@news.povray.org...
>> Darren New wrote:
>>
>>> Know something? The default is also to commit after every statement on
>>> most DBs too. So? :-)
>> Really? I've yet to see that...
>
> How many database variations have you worked with? Oracle and ....
5 points to Gail Shaw.
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> "Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:47642e2a$1@news.povray.org...
>>>> Why do you need to lock things to enforce transactional integrity?
>>>> Locking is only one (suboptimal) way to solve the problem.
>> That's only one way of implementing transactional integrity. (And, IMO,
>> not a very good way.)
>
> So, in your vast experience of databases, how would you do it?
Personally I prefer Oracle's lockless multiversion system - although
obviously that has its own set of drawbacks.
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:54 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Gail Shaw wrote:
>
>> University != experience.
>
> True. But my point is that I'm not entirely clueless about what
> databases are and how they work. I actually know stuff about this stuff.
>
>> You say that as if you're the only person here who did database
>> courses at university. You're not.
>
> I just object to being told I know nothing about databases when actually
> I do. I don't claim to be a world-renound expert, but I do know
> *something*.
Hey, Orchid's got teeth! :-)
(This is the sort of confidence you NEED to show more often)
Jim
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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
news:4766b26e$1@news.povray.org...
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:54 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>
>> Gail Shaw wrote:
>>
>>> University != experience.
>>
>> True. But my point is that I'm not entirely clueless about what
>> databases are and how they work. I actually know stuff about
>> this stuff.
>>
>>> You say that as if you're the only person here who did
>>> database
>>> courses at university. You're not.
>>
>> I just object to being told I know nothing about databases when
>> actually
>> I do. I don't claim to be a world-renound expert, but I do know
>> *something*.
>
> Hey, Orchid's got teeth! :-)
>
So did Audrey (II); friend of Orin Scrivello, DDS.
Barking mad as well as a hot house greenie now, eh?
Uni courses qualify an applicant as much as being a
Microsoft Certified Professional. The former might
make for a trainable PFY for some kindly BOFH.
Rare is the production team that will allow obstructive
newbies to prevent due dates being met.
ObTwainism: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let
people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
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