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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 11 Dec 2007 20:31:31
Message: <475f39f3@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Poll: What do you like more?
>> a) hard science fiction
>> b) fantastical sci-fi
>> c) space operas
> 
> 	Good stories.

Lol. Indeed.

Sam


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 02:37:53
Message: <475f8fd1$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:53:42 -0800, stbenge wrote:

> Poll: What do you like more?
> a) hard science fiction
> b) fantastical sci-fi
> c) space operas

Depends on my mood - some days, I like Asimov, some days, Heinlein, some 
days Aliens.

I'm preferential to well-written works over all others.  I read a little 
bit of L. Ron Hubbard's "Mission Earth" series, and absolutely hated it.  
After the second book, it seemed like I was reading the same story over 
and over.  I gave up after about book 4 IIRC (it's been 25 years).

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 05:33:00
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stbenge wrote:
> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>> stbenge wrote:
>>>>> Poll: What do you like more?
>>>>> a) hard science fiction
>>>>> b) fantastical sci-fi
>>>>> c) space operas
>>>>
>>>> a) for me with a bit of b) or else it doesn't really taste good.  c) 
>>>> only really
>>>> for Star Wars... :)
>>
>> I like a good c) created via a). Touches all major themes with epic 
>> feel but keeps the geekery going for those that like to spot it. :-)
> 
> Such as traveling between star systems in minutes, not hundreds of 
> years. That's a major point of contention for a) fans.

You can definitely have FTL travel in the a) category. Anyway, there are 
some great c)s that don't have it - Alistair Reynolds' work is a 
stunning example.


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 05:34:03
Message: <475fb91b$1@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> Ross wrote:
>> If I ever have a daughter, I might have to name her Alia. 
> 
> It is a beautiful name, but you better keep her away from the kitchen 
> knifes ;) (not to mention the spice cabinet)

And don't be surprised if she starts talking back to you minutes after 
birth!


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From: Dan Byers
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 13:15:00
Message: <web.4760248215e9de23a8d0b25a0@news.povray.org>
> Poll: What do you like more?
> a) hard science fiction
> b) fantastical sci-fi
> c) space operas

What would your definition of b) be (no pun intended)?  What's a good example of
this??

Dan
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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 16:00:58
Message: <47604c0a$1@news.povray.org>
Dan Byers wrote:
>> Poll: What do you like more?
>> a) hard science fiction
>> b) fantastical sci-fi
>> c) space operas
> 
> What would your definition of b) be (no pun intended)?  What's a good example of
> this??
> 
> Dan

Hmm, maybe Brook's Magic Kingdom For Sale. Heinlein's Glory Road comes
to mind, too.


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 16:07:28
Message: <47604d90@news.povray.org>
Dan Byers wrote:
>> Poll: What do you like more?
>> a) hard science fiction
>> b) fantastical sci-fi
>> c) space operas
> 
> What would your definition of b) be (no pun intended)?  What's a good example of
> this??

Grass, Sheri S. Tepper
http://www.amazon.com/Grass-Sheri-S-Tepper/dp/0553285653

My mom suggested this book to me, but I just couldn't get into it. It 
was too frickin' boring.

Also, the Pern (one letter off from porn) series by Anne McCaffrey. I 
read one book of it, and had a hard time finishing it. Fantasy sci-fi 
just isn't that interesting, IMO.

Sam


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 16:30:07
Message: <476052df$1@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> Poll: What do you like more?
> a) hard science fiction
> b) fantastical sci-fi
> c) space operas

I prefer hard science fiction. However, given that, I don't consider it 
to be science fiction unless it's actually about the technology and how 
people react to it. If you could take the story about war between worlds 
with blasters, and set it down as war between countries with revolvers, 
it isn't science fiction. On the other hand, if it's about how 
technology affects people, even old technology then I'd call it science 
fiction. Stories of how medieval peasants deal with the first knights in 
armor would be SF in my book.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 16:47:15
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:00:56 -0500, Sabrina Kilian wrote:

> Brook's Magic Kingdom For Sale.

I'd have considered that more in the fantasy genre than in sci fi...

Jim


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Now here's a good waste of time
Date: 12 Dec 2007 16:57:16
Message: <4760593c$1@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> Sam
> 
> Poll: What do you like more?
> a) hard science fiction
> b) fantastical sci-fi
> c) space operas

A good mix of all three, depending on the mood. I find it really hard to
read a) when I'm trying to relax and let my brain fall asleep, but when
I have a day off it's a great way to spend time.

The only sci-fi I avoid is stuff where the science just can not make
sense even in the author's alternate universe. If I read that everyone
having blue hair is the reason why FTL or time travel is available, I'm
giving the book away to someone else.


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