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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: OT: How nice...
Date: 30 Jan 2018 17:05:01
Message: <web.5a70eaf6882c75ada47873e10@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

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>
> Oops! sorry. 'Twas I
>
Ah, the leprechaun has been unmasked :-P

Strange that it shows up in such a way in the web interface; I've actually
noticed this title-switching before, over the years.

How did you do it?? My inquiring mind is curious. I won't tell anyone  ;-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: OT: :-)
Date: 30 Jan 2018 17:34:30
Message: <5a70f2f6$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/01/2018 22:00, Kenneth wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Oops! sorry. 'Twas I
>>
> Ah, the leprechaun has been unmasked :-P
> 

Begora and the cream o' the morning to ye. ;-)


> Strange that it shows up in such a way in the web interface; I've actually
> noticed this title-switching before, over the years.
> 
> How did you do it?? My inquiring mind is curious. I won't tell anyone  ;-)
> 
> 

I'm sure you can't do it on the web interface.
When you reply to a post using a newsgroup reader. At least in 
Thunderbird, you get a pop up window just like an email. You can change 
the subject line there.
Also when using a newsgroup reader. It can sort the threads into 
branches, following a separate conversations. Allowing you to see who 
replied to what. And some newsgroup readers allow you to ignore branches 
or whole threads.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: OT: :-)
Date: 30 Jan 2018 17:55:01
Message: <web.5a70f7111b69d08aa47873e10@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>
> I'm sure you can't do it on the web interface.
> When you reply to a post using a newsgroup reader. At least in
> Thunderbird, you get a pop up window just like an email. You can change
> the subject line there.
>

That's really strange and fascinating. Looks like something the web admin should
take a look at, if a post's title can be so easily changed inadvertently (or on
purpose by a 'malicious' gremlin, egads; chaos would ensue!)

Thanks. And Top 'o the mornin' to ya, laddie. (Well, it's evening here, but what
the He..)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: OT: :-)
Date: 31 Jan 2018 01:47:58
Message: <5a71669e$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/01/2018 22:52, Kenneth wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm sure you can't do it on the web interface.
>> When you reply to a post using a newsgroup reader. At least in
>> Thunderbird, you get a pop up window just like an email. You can change
>> the subject line there.
>>
> 
> That's really strange and fascinating. Looks like something the web admin should
> take a look at, if a post's title can be so easily changed inadvertently (or on
> purpose by a 'malicious' gremlin, egads; chaos would ensue!)
> 

It is deliberate IIRC. Many moons ago when I was a callous youth(ish). 
You could only access the groups with a newsreader. After a lot of 
complaints from noobs. A website with limited access was created. As for 
the Admin, he went to the darkside (photography), years ago. I think the 
site just runs on automatic until it stalls.

BTW
Using a newsreader can give you access to more groups than you can see 
on the website. And posts appear instantly you don't have to wait. 
</sales pitch> ;-)



> Thanks. And Top 'o the mornin' to ya, laddie. (Well, it's evening here, but what
> the He..)
> 
> 


Likewise, the sun is over the horizon, somewhere on Earth.


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: OT: :-)
Date: 31 Jan 2018 05:00:00
Message: <web.5a7192b91b69d08a91b9b16f0@news.povray.org>
"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
> That's really strange and fascinating. Looks like something the web admin should
> take a look at, if a post's title can be so easily changed inadvertently (or on
> purpose by a 'malicious' gremlin, egads; chaos would ensue!)

No need to worry. No data was changed. The SQL query behind the thread digest
shows the title of the newest message in a thread. The thread activity digest
shows the title of the first message, and you can see that it didn't change :-)

The web frontend does actually know the thread structure and could properly
display it. However, back when Chris Cason and I developed the web interface,
HTML and CSS were not far enough along to create a good interface for it in a
finite amount of time (we had to have it work on IE 5&6!), so we stuck to a
plain view.

Thorsten


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: OT: :-)
Date: 31 Jan 2018 08:05:01
Message: <web.5a71bec51b69d08aa47873e10@news.povray.org>
"Thorsten Froehlich" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>
> No need to worry. No data was changed. The SQL query behind the thread digest
> shows the title of the newest message in a thread. The thread activity digest
> shows the title of the first message, and you can see that it didn't change :-)
>

Thanks. And I see that the thread activity digest does indeed show the original
title; I didn't notice that before.

I book-marked the original thread anyway, at an earlier date, so all's well. I
think Stephen pointed out that the 'new' "OT :-)" title--as seen in the main
thread digest-- will actually change back to the *original* title, if I or
someone else posts a reply to one of the 'earlier-than-OT :-)' posts(?) I
haven't tried that yet, but it sounds... fascinating ;-)


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