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From: Kenneth
Subject: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 07:50:00
Message: <web.5196180da2002084c2d977c20@news.povray.org>
Pov-Ray's included documentation and the online wiki both state that clock_delta
defaults to 1.0 when not running animation (i.e., during a typical static scene
render.) Actually, it defaults to 0.0. This is confirmed in scene use and with
#debug.

This behavior seems correct, too--it 'matches' the behavior of CLOCK in the same
circumstance.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 08:04:42
Message: <51961cda@news.povray.org>
On 17/05/2013 12:46 PM, Kenneth wrote:
> Pov-Ray's included documentation

Hi Kenneth,
In case you do not know. There is a dedicated group for this called 
povray.documentation.inbuilt

Nice catch BTW.

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     Stephen


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 08:35:01
Message: <web.519622f32a2fa49bc2d977c20@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 17/05/2013 12:46 PM, Kenneth wrote:
> > Pov-Ray's included documentation
>
> Hi Kenneth,
> In case you do not know. There is a dedicated group for this called
> povray.documentation.inbuilt
>
> Nice catch BTW.

Thanks. Actually, using the more 'proper' newsgroup posting area didn't occur to
me (!)--thanks for the tip; it's what I should have been using all along, with
these postings.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 09:07:13
Message: <51962b81$1@news.povray.org>
On 17/05/2013 1:30 PM, Kenneth wrote:
> Thanks. Actually, using the more 'proper' newsgroup posting area didn't occur to
> me (!)--thanks for the tip; it's what I should have been using all along, with
> these postings.

It should keep all these things together and save Jim from hunting for 
reports.
There are a lot of groups here some hidden from the web view. Did you 
know that there are two sub groups of OT?
povray.off-topic.haskel-vs-c++.flame.flame.flame
and
povray.off-topic.fan.haskell.bork.bork.bork (I had to look up bork).

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 11:07:35
Message: <519647b7@news.povray.org>
On 05/17/2013 07:46 AM, Kenneth wrote:
> Pov-Ray's included documentation and the online wiki both state that clock_delta
> defaults to 1.0 when not running animation (i.e., during a typical static scene
> render.) Actually, it defaults to 0.0. This is confirmed in scene use and with
> #debug.
>
> This behavior seems correct, too--it 'matches' the behavior of CLOCK in the same
> circumstance.
>
>
>
>
was this the only place:
http://wiki.povray.org/content/Reference:Numeric_Expressions#Built-in_Variables


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 11:50:01
Message: <web.5196508c2a2fa49bc2d977c20@news.povray.org>
James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:

> >
> was this the only place:
> http://wiki.povray.org/content/Reference:Numeric_Expressions#Built-in_Variables

Hmm, I don't think I visited that page (and I see that the clock_delta default
there is correct!)

Here's the page where I did see it...

http://wiki.povray.org/content/Documentation:Numeric_Expressions

.... in the section "Built-In Variables"


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 12:15:01
Message: <web.519656da2a2fa49bc2d977c20@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> There are a lot of groups here some hidden from the web view. Did you
> know that there are two sub groups of OT?
> povray.off-topic.haskel-vs-c++.flame.flame.flame
> and
> povray.off-topic.fan.haskell.bork.bork.bork (I had to look up bork).
>

Are those for real??  I've never seen them.


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 12:28:39
Message: <51965ab7$1@news.povray.org>
On 05/17/2013 11:45 AM, Kenneth wrote:
> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
>
>>>
>> was this the only place:
>> http://wiki.povray.org/content/Reference:Numeric_Expressions#Built-in_Variables
>
> Hmm, I don't think I visited that page (and I see that the clock_delta default
> there is correct!)
>
> Here's the page where I did see it...
>
> http://wiki.povray.org/content/Documentation:Numeric_Expressions
>
> .... in the section "Built-In Variables"
>
>

A while ago the reference content was copied from the Documentation 
namespace to the Reference namespace. The old stuff just hasn't been 
cleaned up yet ... part of a poorly executed plan i'm sorry to say, 
however if you look at:

http://wiki.povray.org/content/Documentation:Contents#POV-Ray_Reference

that will send you to the /correct/ location.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: clock_delta error in documentation
Date: 17 May 2013 12:53:44
Message: <51966098@news.povray.org>
On 17/05/2013 5:13 PM, Kenneth wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
>> There are a lot of groups here some hidden from the web view. Did you
>> know that there are two sub groups of OT?
>> povray.off-topic.haskel-vs-c++.flame.flame.flame
>> and
>> povray.off-topic.fan.haskell.bork.bork.bork (I had to look up bork).
>>
>
> Are those for real??  I've never seen them.
>
>
>
>
Unfortunately yes.
You need to subscribe to them with a newsgroup reader.
IIRC Warp set them up for Andrew/Invisible.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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