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From: quoderatd
Subject: Teaching Shapes
Date: 7 Jul 2009 16:40:00
Message: <web.4a53b1a734834d99c12218790@news.povray.org>
Hello,

I am looking for project ideas or any objects that utilizies

spline-based shapes and/or polygon-based shapes.

Thanks


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 7 Jul 2009 17:10:12
Message: <4a53b9b4@news.povray.org>
"quoderatd" <quo### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.4a53b1a734834d99c12218790@news.povray.org...
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for project ideas or any objects that utilizies
>
> spline-based shapes and/or polygon-based shapes.

The Rope and the Blockwall macros on the POV-Ray Object Collection both 
create objects that follow splines. Maybe the images in the documentation 
for them could inspire ideas for a POV-Ray project:

http://lib.povray.org/collection/blockwall/chrisb%201.1.1/blockwall.html
http://lib.povray.org/collection/rope/chrisb%201.0/rope.html

I don't think the POV-Ray polygon object is used very much. Having said 
that, there are examples of it being used in the Blockwall and CurvedPaving 
macros which both use polygon objects to provide a quick render option. I 
think it's more common to use prism objects, which can be generated using a 
linear spline to give a 3D sort of equivalent.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 8 Jul 2009 18:15:00
Message: <web.4a551a27c76f0d6de52d56d0@news.povray.org>
"quoderatd" <quo### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> I am looking for project ideas or any objects that utilizies
>
> spline-based shapes and/or polygon-based shapes.

Hm... it's "christmas in july" time in America, right? So those steel stencils
for making shaped cookies come to my mind, something like this one:

http://www.shopblogger.de/blog/uploads/dezember_05/landliebekuhkeksfoermchen.jpg

(though the shape doesn't fit the season of course; but strangely enough,
photographs of these things seem hard to find on the net - maybe they're a
typical German invention?)


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From: Reactor
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 8 Jul 2009 18:45:01
Message: <web.4a55206bc76f0d6f67b88710@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "quoderatd" <quo### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > I am looking for project ideas or any objects that utilizies
> >
> > spline-based shapes and/or polygon-based shapes.
>
> Hm... it's "christmas in july" time in America, right? So those steel stencils
> for making shaped cookies come to my mind, something like this one:
>
> http://www.shopblogger.de/blog/uploads/dezember_05/landliebekuhkeksfoermchen.jpg
>
> (though the shape doesn't fit the season of course; but strangely enough,
> photographs of these things seem hard to find on the net - maybe they're a
> typical German invention?)

The term widely used in the US is 'cookie cutter', if you search using that,
you'll find a lot of them

-Reactor


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 8 Jul 2009 18:55:13
Message: <4a5523d1@news.povray.org>
> The term widely used in the US is 'cookie cutter', if you search using 
> that,
> you'll find a lot of them

Yeah, why do they always say biscuit in the UK?
Biscuits are something you pour white sausage gravy over.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravy


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 8 Jul 2009 23:40:01
Message: <web.4a556682c76f0d67a70716b0@news.povray.org>
"Tim Attwood" <tim### [at] anti-spamcomcastnet> wrote:
> > The term widely used in the US is 'cookie cutter', if you search using
> > that,
> > you'll find a lot of them
>
> Yeah, why do they always say biscuit in the UK?
> Biscuits are something you pour white sausage gravy over.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravy

Because neither is right, historically speaking.
Not even the modern usage of the original French term "biscuit" is.

Historically, "biscuit" was (as the literal translation suggests) "double-baked"
bread - an extra dry bread created by pre-slicing and baking it a second time,
to conserve it for long ship travels; in other words: Rusk.

Seems like only the Dutch still got it right.


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 9 Jul 2009 06:20:39
Message: <4a55c477$1@news.povray.org>
> Because neither is right, historically speaking.
> Not even the modern usage of the original French term "biscuit" is.
>
> Historically, "biscuit" was (as the literal translation suggests) 
> "double-baked"
> bread - an extra dry bread created by pre-slicing and baking it a second 
> time,
> to conserve it for long ship travels; in other words: Rusk.
>
> Seems like only the Dutch still got it right.

Is rusk like hardtack? Or is it more like croutons?


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 9 Jul 2009 07:12:38
Message: <4a55d0a6@news.povray.org>
Tim Attwood wrote:
> 
> Is rusk like hardtack? Or is it more like croutons?

IIRC, hard tack, ship's biscuit and rusk are all synonyms - None of
which are particularly appetising.

John
-- 
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 9 Jul 2009 10:15:00
Message: <web.4a55fa72c76f0d6f07a321e0@news.povray.org>
Doctor John <joh### [at] homecom> wrote:
> IIRC, hard tack, ship's biscuit and rusk are all synonyms - None of
> which are particularly appetising.

Yup. Best eaten when dipped into something, like tea for instance. Which may
have caused a shift in use of the word, to refer to other pastries typically to
be had with tea.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Teaching Shapes
Date: 9 Jul 2009 18:15:57
Message: <4a566c1d$1@news.povray.org>

>> The term widely used in the US is 'cookie cutter', if you search using 
>> that,
>> you'll find a lot of them
> 
> Yeah, why do they always say biscuit in the UK?
> Biscuits are something you pour white sausage gravy over.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravy
I would'ne never take that kind of stuff for breakfeast.

Maybe they took the french word for cookie whitch is "biscuit"...


Alain


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