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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 8 May 2000 17:23:23
Message: <3917304b@news.povray.org>
Exactly. Everyone: Listen to this man. His words are full of wisdom.


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 8 May 2000 17:26:59
Message: <39173123@news.povray.org>
>it gives us a reason to exist...


Before POV, I was nobody...


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 8 May 2000 17:55:09
Message: <391737bd@news.povray.org>
"Henry" <htp### [at] maccom> wrote :
> >
> >     I agree that words change, but the function we want is still here.
We
> > want something by which POV-Ray can be recognized.
>
> Why?
>

    I don't know why "we" want one, -I- want one that I can put into my
scenes so that people will be able to tell by looking at it that it was made
using POV-Ray. Personally, I don't want the -name- POV-Ray in my scene, and
I want whatever it is to be subtle, so that it doesn't distract from the
image. I would prefer something that is symmetrical, but that's just me.

    You comments about the name are reasonable, and as you note work well
for selling things. But we are not really trying to sell things. At most, we
are trying to move POV-Ray up the respect ladder to where it belongs, rather
than at the bottom of some other, perhaps lower quality, but commercial
renderers. I (again, even when I use the word "we" I am not really speaking
for us -all-) just want some people to see some of the amazing images that
people make using POV-Ray and then recognize the little object that tells
them what program was responsible for the quality. Sure, if it was the words
"POV-Ray" it would work, but IMHO, it wouldn't be as classy. It would be, as
you say, like Coke or McDonalds, just another renderer...


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 8 May 2000 18:56:18
Message: <39174612@news.povray.org>
I agree. Although I prefer asymmetrical, but that's just me. :)


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 8 May 2000 19:41:17
Message: <39174FE8.267B0E84@faricy.net>
> I would prefer something that is symmetrical, but that's just me.

Ugh! Not for me.

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David Fontaine     <dav### [at] faricynet>    ICQ 55354965
Please visit my website: http:/www.faricy.net/~davidf/


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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 8 May 2000 20:02:07
Message: <slrn8heiie.pd.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On Tue, 09 May 2000 05:08:30 +0930, Henry wrote:
>Pop quiz: What's NASA's logo? What's Amazon.com's logo? What's IBM's
>logo?
>
>I think I'd be pretty safe in saying that _everyone_ here knows what 
>those organisations are, but I would be very surprised if anyone could 
>describe the logos of all three.  Why is this the case?  It's quite 
>simply that NASA is 'NASA', IBM is 'IBM', and Amazon.com is 
>'Amazon.com'. 

Er, no. While NASA may not have a logo (although I seem to connect the
name always with a certain font where the "A" doesn't have a horizontal
bar), Amazon and IBM do have a logo: Amazon has[1] a black triangle with
a white meandring river in it (presumably the Amazon in an "A"). IBM has
an intersection of the three letters "IBM" with horizontal bars.

	hp

[1] Make that "had". I just visited their web site and that logo isn't
there any more. Instead they have the name amazon.com in two different
fonts with a stupid orange arrow from the a to the o. 

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 9 May 2000 01:32:21
Message: <3917a2e5@news.povray.org>
Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> Er, no. While NASA may not have a logo (although I seem to connect the

I seem to remember NASA having a logo actually.  It's simply the word NASA
with a red kinda streak around it, with a white ellipse in the opposite
direction behind it.  Difficult to explain, but it does have a logo.

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Lance

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 9 May 2000 02:38:59
Message: <3917B1FB.5DEDADD2@pacbell.net>
Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > Er, no. While NASA may not have a logo (although I seem to connect the
> 
> I seem to remember NASA having a logo actually.  It's simply the word NASA
> with a red kinda streak around it, with a white ellipse in the opposite
> direction behind it.  Difficult to explain, but it does have a logo.

You can see the NASA logo, insignia, and seal at the following site -

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/insignia/insignia.html

The displayed image will change as you mouse over the different links.

-- 
Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Edward Coffey
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 9 May 2000 03:35:05
Message: <3917bfa9@news.povray.org>
> Unless PoV-Ray suddenly develops a user-friendly, object-oriented
> front-end, it will never be in a position to compete in a consumer
> marketplace.
>
> If it never needs to compete in a consumer marketplace, it doesn't need
> to advertise.

But POV does compete for the attention of 3D computer artists and
programmers.  The more people involved, the more creative ideas for using
and improving POV will be put forward, and the more tutorials, macros and
patches will be written - thus benefiting the entire POV community.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: grep 'logo' /etc/collectedWisdom
Date: 9 May 2000 03:39:49
Message: <3917C040.81F27BD0@pacbell.net>
Edward Coffey wrote:

> But POV does compete for the attention of 3D computer artists and
> programmers.  The more people involved, the more creative ideas for using
> and improving POV will be put forward, and the more tutorials, macros and
> patches will be written - thus benefiting the entire POV community.

Excellent reply.

-- 
Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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