In article <pan### [at] gamersorg> , Raphael 
Quinet <qui### [at] gamersorg>  wrote:

> I am now posting a small screenshot showing the problem in
> povray.beta-test.binaries.  This is not the most appropriate group for
> that, but there is no other group for posting binaries related to bug
> reports and I did not want to post this in the normal p.b.images
> group.

It is a bug in Netscape 4.x on Solaris.  It does work without problems on
Netscape 4.x on Mac OS as well as Windows.  I expect up(down?)grading to
Netscape 6.x or Mozilla will help.

    Thorsten

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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
> > 2. In the list of countris in community section number of povers in each
> > country could be displayed directly with name of country instead of on embeded
> > page to decrease number of generated pages. Sorting according to number of
> > povers in country could be possible.
>
> I know.  We are using mySQL as database, and unfortunately it doe not
> support subselects.  Performing a separate request via the script for each
> country would add too much load, so until mySQL finally gains subselect
> capability or I manage to invent another quick way of collecting these
> statistics (I have a few workarounds like updating the numbers only once per
> day) there won't be any.

select
  country_id,
  count(country_id) as nr
from pov_world_users
order by nr
group by country_id;

??

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On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 20:09:51 +0200, Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> In article <pan### [at] gamersorg> , Raphael
> Quinet <qui### [at] gamersorg>  wrote:
> > I am now posting a small screenshot showing the problem in
> > povray.beta-test.binaries.  This is not the most appropriate group for
> > that, but there is no other group for posting binaries related to bug
> > reports and I did not want to post this in the normal p.b.images group.
> 
> It is a bug in Netscape 4.x on Solaris.  It does work without problems
> on Netscape 4.x on Mac OS as well as Windows.  I expect up(down?)grading
> to Netscape 6.x or Mozilla will help.

Yes, as I mentioned in my previous post I have verified that it works
with Mozilla.  However, Netscape 6.x and Mozilla can be installed only
on Solaris 8 (assuming that you have root access, which was not
required for Netscape 4.x).  They are not available (or not easily)
for the older Solaris 2.6 or 7.  This means that these users have
(almost) no other choice.

Should I assume that the problem on the www.povray.org pages will not
be fixed?

By the way, I would not really call this a "Netscape bug" because the
HTML standard does not specify the size of the submit buttons.  The
developers of IE on Windows, and Netscape on MacOS and Windows (and
maybe Opera) decided to use the same size for the buttons because they
thought that it would be more convenient for the web designers, but
this is certainly not required.  Compare that with some other browsers
such as the original Mosaic or Arena or Amaya and you will see that
all of them use different sizes.

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On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:37:43 +0200, Jan Walzer wrote:
> "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
> > I know.  We are using mySQL as database, and unfortunately it doe not
> > support subselects.  Performing a separate request via the script for
> > each country would add too much load, so until mySQL finally gains
> > subselect capability or I manage to invent another quick way of
> > collecting these statistics (I have a few workarounds like updating the
> > numbers only once per day) there won't be any.
> 
> select
>   country_id,
>   count(country_id) as nr
> from pov_world_users
> order by nr
> group by country_id;
> 
> ??
 
I was about to post a similar suggestion.  In addition, it could be
useful to display the total number of registered users on the main
page, maybe with a separate count of those who included some public
information (a simple "select count(*) ..." or something similar)

By the way, it looks like some characters (single quote) are escaped
when they are entered in the MySQL database but are not unescaped when
the text is converted to HTML.  This is visible in the additional info
provided by several people: all single quotes such as in "I'm" are
prepended with a backslash ("I\'m") in the HTML output.  This is even
worse when someone attempts to edit the info later, because the
backslash is also escaped and this results in things like "I\\\'m" and
so on...  I noticed this on James Taylor's page:
  http://www.povray.org/community/map/view/17/

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In article <3d2b3b86@news.povray.org> , "Jan Walzer" <jan### [at] lzernet> wrote:

> select
>   country_id,
>   count(country_id) as nr
> from pov_world_users
> order by nr
> group by country_id;

Yes, that would work.  However, I still have to check how it performs on
large tables before it can be used.

    Thorsten

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In article <pan### [at] gamersorg> , Raphael 
Quinet <qui### [at] gamersorg>  wrote:

> By the way, I would not really call this a "Netscape bug" because the
> HTML standard does not specify the size of the submit buttons.

No, but our stylesheet does, which Netscape 4.x simply ignores (like many
other things in the stylesheet) despite its supposed support for CSS1.

    Thorsten

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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> > select
> >   country_id,
> >   count(country_id) as nr
> > from pov_world_users
> > order by nr
> > group by country_id;
>
> Yes, that would work.  However, I still have to check how it performs on
> large tables before it can be used.

at least it wouldn't show all the countries with no users if
you filter them out ...

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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
>
> > By the way, I would not really call this a "Netscape bug" because the
> > HTML standard does not specify the size of the submit buttons.
>
> No, but our stylesheet does, which Netscape 4.x simply ignores (like many
> other things in the stylesheet) despite its supposed support for CSS1.

at least the site "works" in w3m and links ... dunno 'bout lynx, though ...

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Raphael Quinet <qui### [at] gamersorg> wrote:
> Should I assume that the problem on the www.povray.org pages will not
> be fixed?

  How can you fix something that is not broken?
  It's not www.povray.org which is broken - it's Netscape 4.x which is.
Complain to Netscape.

  (How was the good old engineer saying: "If it ain't broken, don't fix it"
or something like that. :P )

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