Sven Littkowski wrote:

> I have lots of data on ancient Roman ships, but lack the skills to shape the 
> hull in 3D.

It might help if you explain what kind of data
you have and in which format it is represented.

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I prefer POV-Ray. It is easier for me later to use and even expand these 3D 
models.   :-)

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Sure! The data is partially existing as full side views of those ships 
(hi-res JPG graphics), and partially as constructional details which I would 
have to deliver as corrections or descriptions of the growing 3D model.

Wikipedia is using my reconstructions already, well, at least three or four 
of them. But meanwhile, I have around fifty of those reconstructional 
images, all in hi-res.

my target is to recreate the ancient Roman world with POV-Ray, at least the 
coast lines and certain maritime events. A number of video clips might 
follow, if I ever get a faster PC...   ;-)
But the idea is a great one.

Links:
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/01.jpg
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/03.jpg
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/07.jpg
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/11.jpg
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/12.jpg
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/13.jpg (Egyptian)
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/16.jpg
http://jamaica-focus.com/SvenLittkowski/17.jpg

Greetings,

Sven

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"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> schreef in bericht 
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> Sure! The data is partially existing as full side views of those ships 
> (hi-res JPG graphics), and partially as constructional details which I 
> would have to deliver as corrections or descriptions of the growing 3D 
> model.
>

What really would be needed are cross-sections of the ship, for representing 
the timber. Best program to model hulls would then be the (free version of 
the) program DelftShip at http://www.delftship.net/

As an aside: I have my own 17th century Dutch trade ship started that way 
(on hold unfortunately since 2004  :-(   no time...)

Thomas

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"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> wrote:

> I prefer POV-Ray. It is easier for me later to use and even expand these
> 3D
> models.   :-)

Same for meshes... :)

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"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have lots of data on ancient Roman ships, but lack the skills to shape the
> hull in 3D.
>
> Is there anyone interested to create a number of 3D models of ancient ships
> based on my details? The ships would be full of details, interior and
> exterior.
>
> Greetings, lots of thanks,
>
> Sven

On a lark I actually played with one of the simpler ones, and making some parts
of the shape was actually fairly easy in wings.  However, I am not familiar
with such ships, and found that working from a side view only is very
difficult.  Do you have any pictures from other angles?


-Reactor

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"Reactor" <rea### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
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>
> On a lark I actually played with one of the simpler ones, and making some 
> parts
> of the shape was actually fairly easy in wings.  However, I am not 
> familiar
> with such ships, and found that working from a side view only is very
> difficult.  Do you have any pictures from other angles?
>

Exactly! From experience with this kind of ship building, I can tell that 
you absolutely need the so-called Timber Plan, which essentially shows 
several cross-sections along the hull. Aditionally, info about keel length, 
deck heights and curvatures, etc may help to visualize better the whole 
structure and may even be essential for some parts. With that information 
you can either work in (e.g.) Wings, or use the dedicated hull-building 
program FreeShip as a start, and finish in Wings. Overall, building an 
accurate ship takes weeks if not more, but the result can be very 
satisfying.

Thomas

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Thanks for all your responses!

Yes, I could prepare some visual data of these ships.In fact, I will add 
them to this posting here, or create a new one where I can attach images.

We could start with the smaller, simpler ones, before we reconstruct the 
really large big Roman battle galleys. Those ships are just amazing!

Greetings,

Sven





"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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> Hi.
>
> I have lots of data on ancient Roman ships, but lack the skills to shape 
> the hull in 3D.
>
> Is there anyone interested to create a number of 3D models of ancient 
> ships based on my details? The ships would be full of details, interior 
> and exterior.
>
> Greetings, lots of thanks,
>
> Sven
>

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"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> schreef in bericht 
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> Thanks for all your responses!
>
> Yes, I could prepare some visual data of these ships.In fact, I will add 
> them to this posting here, or create a new one where I can attach images.
>
> We could start with the smaller, simpler ones, before we reconstruct the 
> really large big Roman battle galleys. Those ships are just amazing!
>

I think that would be a good idea. I would like to try my hand at one of 
those hulls using DelftShip. If you can provide a number of cross sections 
(and an overhead view!) I could calculate the splines needed for the timber. 
To show you what I am after, see the screenshop in p.b.i. Very preliminary 
hull of 17th century Dutch sailing ship.

Thomas

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Thomas,

I will contact you directly with some first information of the ships. I am 
looking forward to work together with you!

Best greetings,

Sven

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