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From: David Buck
Subject: IRTC to be revived
Date: 3 Mar 2008 20:22:53
Message: <47cca46d$1@news.povray.org>
As you likely know, the IRTC (Internet Ray Tracing Competition) has been 
down for over a year now.  I've been in discussions with Chris Cason for 
a while now on how we can resurrect it and I'm happy to announce that 
we've come up with a proposal.

I have assembled a small group of developers including myself and Randal 
Schwartz who will volunteer our time to re-write the software in 
Smalltalk using the Seaside web framework.  In the process, we will try 
to address some of the issues that led to the demise of the previous 
system and add some flexibility to do more fun things with the site in 
the future.

I do realize that while the IRTC was down, the TC-RTC started up.  There 
has been some discussion here that there's no need for two competitions. 
  Still, it's the IRTC that has the most visibility and the new site 
should attract a lot more.  We will import all of the previous years 
competition results into the system and have them available for viewing 
once the site is up.

If you have any questions or suggestions, you can send them to me at 
dav### [at] simberoncom.  Please include the text IRTC in the subject line.

I'll keep you advised as the development progresses.

David Buck


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 3 Mar 2008 21:55:00
Message: <web.47ccb931db92fe12624ad9fa0@news.povray.org>
David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> As you likely know, the IRTC (Internet Ray Tracing Competition) has been
> down for over a year now.  I've been in discussions with Chris Cason for
> a while now on how we can resurrect it and I'm happy to announce that
> we've come up with a proposal.
>
> I have assembled a small group of developers including myself and Randal
> Schwartz who will volunteer our time to re-write the software in
> Smalltalk using the Seaside web framework.  In the process, we will try
> to address some of the issues that led to the demise of the previous
> system and add some flexibility to do more fun things with the site in
> the future.

this is great!  I don't really think it wasn't really any issue related to
software:  it was just bunch of static html pages manually updated by the
admins after all.

Still, good news anyway.  Hope Smalltalk and Seaside can make it look more
professional and make it more visible, plus turn site administration easier.

so, Randal got the pov bug, huh? ;)


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From: Randal L  Schwartz
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 3 Mar 2008 22:53:54
Message: <86od9vta99.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "nemesis" == nemesis  <nam### [at] gmailcom> writes:

nemesis> so, Randal got the pov bug, huh? ;)

I've always enjoyed *looking* at beautiful things. :)
Creating them is an entirely different matter.

-- 
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From: C  Cappai
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 4 Mar 2008 03:45:01
Message: <web.47cd0ba6db92fe12c650c4180@news.povray.org>
This is a very good news indeed!
Thanks for all your work!


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 4 Mar 2008 03:53:36
Message: <47cd0e0f@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> I don't really think it wasn't really any issue related to
> software:  it was just bunch of static html pages manually updated by the
> admins after all.

  I think that *is* an issue. Automation makes things much easier for
everyone and shouldn't stress the admins so much.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 4 Mar 2008 03:54:27
Message: <47cd0e42@news.povray.org>
David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> As you likely know, the IRTC (Internet Ray Tracing Competition) has been 
> down for over a year now.  I've been in discussions with Chris Cason for 
> a while now on how we can resurrect it and I'm happy to announce that 
> we've come up with a proposal.

  I solemnly promise to submit an entry to the first round of the
new IRTC. :)

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Rarius
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 4 Mar 2008 05:11:03
Message: <47cd2037$1@news.povray.org>
Personally I think it ought to be manditory to submit atleast one IRTC entry 
every year... Could you add a check into the POV code? ;-)

Rarius

PS... I still can't beleive I've been using POVRay (DBKTrace) for 10 years!

"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
news:47cd0e42@news.povray.org...
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> As you likely know, the IRTC (Internet Ray Tracing Competition) has been
>> down for over a year now.  I've been in discussions with Chris Cason for
>> a while now on how we can resurrect it and I'm happy to announce that
>> we've come up with a proposal.
>
>  I solemnly promise to submit an entry to the first round of the
> new IRTC. :)
>
> -- 
>                                                          - Warp


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 4 Mar 2008 06:45:13
Message: <47cd3649$1@news.povray.org>
David Buck wrote:

> I'm happy to announce that we've come up with a proposal.

Great news!

> I have assembled a small group of developers including myself and Randal 
> Schwartz who will volunteer our time to re-write the software in 
> Smalltalk using the Seaside web framework.

Ah, must be the same Randal Schwartz who said "I have my fingers
in far more pies than I can ever eat in a lifetime already." ;)


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 4 Mar 2008 07:51:15
Message: <47cd45c3$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> this is great!  I don't really think it wasn't really any issue related to
> software:  it was just bunch of static html pages manually updated by the
> admins after all.

Warp's response is right on the money here. Nearly-full automation is very
important; I can vouch for that from seeing the IRTC run via the admin
list. Everytime you have to do something manually it adds the potential for
something to go wrong, plus requires someone to be available at the right
time to do it.

-- Chris


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: IRTC to be revived
Date: 4 Mar 2008 09:55:01
Message: <web.47cd61c8db92fe12731f01d10@news.povray.org>
Damn, looks like I'll have to win it again to keep my name in lights! ;-D


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