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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 11 May 2007 23:30:01
Message: <web.464533ac475e020d7cca6030@news.povray.org>
William Tracy <wtr### [at] calpolyedu> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > cool idea!  I guess better than my current scene1.pov, scene2.pov etc
>
> It only saves the renders, not the pov files.

hmm, so there goes my suggestion, because what if you liked wip 3 better
than wip 15?  If you decided to render wip 3 in a high quality setting, you
probably lost all the original details from the original scene... :)

of course, you could probably use some version control system like cvs or
svn, but I think it's too much for pov scenes...


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From: William Tracy
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 12 May 2007 16:01:43
Message: <46461d27$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> hmm, so there goes my suggestion, because what if you liked wip 3 better
> than wip 15?  If you decided to render wip 3 in a high quality setting, you
> probably lost all the original details from the original scene... :)

That's more than my program was meant to handle.

> of course, you could probably use some version control system like cvs or
> svn, but I think it's too much for pov scenes...

Hmm, there's got to be a decent versioning system that's built for 
single-user use. I might have to look into that.

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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 12 May 2007 19:49:01
Message: <4646526d@news.povray.org>
William Tracy wrote:

> Hmm, there's got to be a decent versioning system that's built for 
> single-user use. I might have to look into that.

cvs was built on rcs, which might be what your're looking for.


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From: "Jérôme M. Berger"
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 13 May 2007 02:35:18
Message: <4646b1a6$1@news.povray.org>
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William Tracy wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> hmm, so there goes my suggestion, because what if you liked wip 3 better
>> than wip 15?  If you decided to render wip 3 in a high quality
>> setting, you
>> probably lost all the original details from the original scene... :)
> 
> That's more than my program was meant to handle.
> 
>> of course, you could probably use some version control system like cvs or
>> svn, but I think it's too much for pov scenes...
> 
> Hmm, there's got to be a decent versioning system that's built for
> single-user use. I might have to look into that.
> 
	If you don't mind the command line, I'd suggest Mercurial. The
advantages for this kind of usage is that it stores all its data in
a subfolder. Typical usage would be:

> hg init
> hg addremove
> hg commit
... Work on your files
> hg commit
...

http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/

		Jerome
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From: Nicolas George
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 13 May 2007 07:41:05
Message: <4646f951$1@news.povray.org>
William Tracy  wrote in message <46461d27$1@news.povray.org>:
> Hmm, there's got to be a decent versioning system that's built for 
> single-user use. I might have to look into that.

CVS and SVN are absolutely usable in single-user small projects.


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From: William Tracy
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 13 May 2007 12:06:36
Message: <4647378c$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas George wrote:
> William Tracy  wrote in message <46461d27$1@news.povray.org>:
>> Hmm, there's got to be a decent versioning system that's built for 
>> single-user use. I might have to look into that.
> 
> CVS and SVN are absolutely usable in single-user small projects.

I've never actually set up a CVS/SVN server, so I don't know how hard it 
is. My suspicion is that it's going to be overly complicated for this, 
especially for Windows users.

Still, once its set up, SVN would be fantastic. CVS would probably be 
pretty good too, since the horrible bandwidth sucking wouldn't be so bad 
on a local machine. :-P

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William Tracy
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people who ask questions about 3DFX products.
Alex McLeod a.k.a. Giant Robot Messiah


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From: Christian Walther
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 13 May 2007 13:58:12
Message: <464751b4@news.povray.org>
William Tracy wrote:
> I've never actually set up a CVS/SVN server, so I don't know how hard it 
> is. My suspicion is that it's going to be overly complicated for this, 
> especially for Windows users.

You don't need a server for Subversion, it can access a repository 
directly in the file system.

"Especially for Windows users", there is TortoiseSVN 
<http://tortoisesvn.net/> (IMHO the best GUI Subversion client I've seen 
on any platform - too bad there is nothing that comes close on Mac OS 
X). I believe it also does repository creation and maintenance (what 
you'd use "svnadmin" rather than "svn" on the command line), though I've 
never used that.

I've never used SVN for a POV project, but then I haven't done much 
POVing at all lately - if I were to start a big project now, I'd 
certainly use it.

  -Christian


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From: William Tracy
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 13 May 2007 16:34:15
Message: <46477647$1@news.povray.org>
Christian Walther wrote:
> You don't need a server for Subversion, it can access a repository 
> directly in the file system.

I did not know that.

Hmm. There is a Subversion plugin for Eclipse. Suddenly PovClipse looks 
a lot more interesting.

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You know you've been raytracing too long when you try to compress a 
mandelbrot landscape made of spheres just to 4 lines of pov code.
Warp


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From: William Tracy
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 13 May 2007 17:04:50
Message: <46477d72$1@news.povray.org>
I just noticed a program called "Tinker" under p.b.utilities:
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.utilities/thread/%3C42ea075c@news.povray.org%3E/

It's Windows-only, but does exactly what I think you're looking for.

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flame war over various rendering softwares.
Stephan Ahonen


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From: Nicolas George
Subject: Re: PovWip
Date: 14 May 2007 05:40:40
Message: <46482e98@news.povray.org>
Christian Walther  wrote in message <464751b4@news.povray.org>:
> You don't need a server for Subversion, it can access a repository 
> directly in the file system.

And that is also true for CVS: you only need to create a directory and "cvs
init" on it. The corresponding command for Subversion is something like
"svnadmin create file:///some/directory".


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