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From: Marvin Taylor
Subject: Re: format and the web
Date: 5 Apr 2004 16:23:33
Message: <4071c045@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> In article <40706b92@news.povray.org>, dne### [at] sanrrcom says...
> 
>>You also need to upload it in "binary" mode, if you're not already.
>>
> You know.. I never quite understood why such and option even existed. If 
> I upload a text file in binary mode is it going to explode or something? 
> lol Seriously, the option of which of the two to use only adds confusion 
> and makes it more likely that people will screw something up. Data is 
> data and all of it is basically binary anyway, the servers don't bloody 
> care.

Keep in mind that FTP was originated in 1971 (RFC172), or before.  At 
the time not every machine had words that were powers of 2 (such as 9 
and 36?).

Text mode transfers indicated that the client/server should convert each 
"character" to it's local interpretation; an implied conversion.  ASCII 
to/from EBCIDC (?) might be one such example.

But for binary data --  when transferring from a 16 bit to a 36 bit 
computer (for example), some conversion would be required, and the 
standard (wisely I think) did not pick one.

That said, though, don't most FTP clients default to binary?

M


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From: David Burnett
Subject: Re: format and the web
Date: 5 Apr 2004 16:44:48
Message: <4071c540$1@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

> In article <4071ad90$1@news.povray.org> , David Burnett 
> <var### [at] ntlworldcom>  wrote:
> 

> 
> Well, all current versions of QuickTime produce flat movies by default.

And at no point did he say he used QT. And many new programs do not 
produce flattened movies.  I do not use QT Pro, I'm not paying $30 for 
functionality I can enable with a few lines of code.

We've been through this before

http://news.povray.org/povray.macintosh/thread/%3Cp### [at] ntlworldcom%3E/



>  However, fact is that even
> current versions of the two most popular web servers do not come with an
> MPEG-4 content-type setting for files with an MPEG-4 file extension...

Which will usually involve the server downloading a 'text' file, or
whatever the web master has set the server default too. Attempting to
download a file is is not flat file gives the error Anthony described
even if the good old 'Save As' stand by is used.

No one else suggested that it might be a possible cause.
And there was no reason to dismiss it out of hand.

Dave


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