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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 8 Jul 2003 17:08:55
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> Tried it but when dropping the image on the exe, it says "Not
> equirectangular input" ?? (For info, my picture size is 400x400 (dividable
> by 4) and the camera was spherical camera angle=360d -HORIZONTAL - what
> about the vertical ?)

I think that equirectangular images needs a ratio such as 800 x 400 or 1000
x 500 : width = 2 x height.

G.


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From: tommy
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 9 Jul 2003 02:40:01
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Gilles Tran wrote:
>I think that equirectangular images needs a ratio such as 800 x 400 or 1000
>x 500 : width = 2 x height.
>
>G.


Yes, you are right. Equirectangular projection is width=2*height

Nevertheless, I am totally lost...

I managed easily to create the .mov panorama but I don't have Quick Time
(and it is impossible to get it as the set-up wizard is asking information
about the proxy and as I am working in a big organisation with firewalls
and password protection for the proxy).

So I decided to try to get it in Java.  What should I do to get the Java
version of the pano ??

Then, I went to Gilles website to see the Java panorama of "My Family" and I
was hoping to find some explanation in the HTML code sourceit but it
totally failed to see the pano (although yesterday it was working great
???)

I downloaded yesterday the Java Web Start version 1.2.0_03 to be able to
play with the new version of POV-Tree 1.1 (which is working great) but I
suspect that this could be the reason why I can't see anymore the Java
pano...

I am not a Java expert so may be someone could direct me...

Tommy - The French Pot Head Pixie

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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 9 Jul 2003 04:50:55
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> So I decided to try to get it in Java.  What should I do to get the Java
> version of the pano ??

The java version of the pano is just the jpg image, no conversion is needed.
The HTML code is as follow :
<applet archive="ptviewer.jar" code="ptviewer.class" width="640"
height="480" >
<param name="file" value="../images/famille_jour_vr.jpg">
</applet>

> but it totally failed to see the pano
Too bad :( The applet is supposed to work with Java 1.04 or higher. I've had
this sort of problem with Java applets before which is why I don't trust
this technology very much...
Note that there's a version of PTViewer (available in the panotool suite)
that reads QTVR. I wasn't able to make it work (just got a red square) but
you could try it.
Also, there are other panorama applets (Live Picture, Go360).

G.

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From: tommy
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 9 Jul 2003 05:10:01
Message: <web.3f0bdb63cd84272ba472d3920@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran wrote:
>> but it totally failed to see the pano
>Too bad :( The applet is supposed to work with Java 1.04 or higher. I've had
>this sort of problem with Java applets before which is why I don't trust
>this technology very much...
>Note that there's a version of PTViewer (available in the panotool suite)
>that reads QTVR. I wasn't able to make it work (just got a red square) but
>you could try it.
>Also, there are other panorama applets (Live Picture, Go360).
>
>G.

Yeah, in fact, I just dowloaded the version 1.4.2 (build b28) - the latest -
and got the PTviewer applet from panotool.  As you, I just got a big red
square.  I will look for some other applets when I have some time (but I
stil don't understand why yesterday I managed to see it and today NADA!

Thanks for the info.

Cheers

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From: Lutz-Peter Hooge
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 9 Jul 2003 08:49:26
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tommy <tom### [at] webkenyacom> wrote:

> Yeah, in fact, I just dowloaded the version 1.4.2 (build b28) - the latest -
> and got the PTviewer applet from panotool.  As you, I just got a big red
> square.

Did you try it locally or on a webpage? Depending on your browser, there might
be security restrictions wich won't allow the applet read a local file, even
when the applet itself is loaded from the local computer.

Lutz-Peter


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From: tommy
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 9 Jul 2003 09:25:01
Message: <web.3f0c16b0cd84272ba472d3920@news.povray.org>
Lutz-Peter Hooge wrote:
>tommy <tom### [at] webkenyacom> wrote:
>
>Did you try it locally or on a webpage? Depending on your browser, there might
>be security restrictions wich won't allow the applet read a local file, even
>when the applet itself is loaded from the local computer.
>
>Lutz-Peter
>

Indeed, I tried to make my own locally (HTML page) and it is working great.
But when I check the same file on Internet, I get red square...
I suppose that the Cache Manager (from my office network) does not allow
loading of java applet...

So I will have a look on my personnal PC...  But at least I know it is
working.

Thanks for your input

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 9 Jul 2003 12:09:25
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"tommy" <tom### [at] webkenyacom> wrote in message
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>
> Indeed, I tried to make my own locally (HTML page) and it is working great.
> But when I check the same file on Internet, I get red square...
> I suppose that the Cache Manager (from my office network) does not allow
> loading of java applet...
>

Could you post the URL and then we can check it?


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From: tommy
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 10 Jul 2003 01:55:01
Message: <web.3f0cff61cd84272ba472d3920@news.povray.org>
Tom Melly wrote:
>"tommy" <tom### [at] webkenyacom> wrote in message
>news:web.3f0c16b0cd84272ba472d3920[at]news.povray.org...
>>
>> Indeed, I tried to make my own locally (HTML page) and it is working great.
>> But when I check the same file on Internet, I get red square...
>> I suppose that the Cache Manager (from my office network) does not allow
>> loading of java applet...
>>
>
>Could you post the URL and then we can check it?


Yes sure I can, http://www.webkenya.com/pot_pourri/pano.html

Top and bottom panos use the PTViewer applet
Middle pano use an other Panorama applet

Just let me know if it works.

Thanks

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 10 Jul 2003 05:05:45
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"tommy" <tom### [at] webkenyacom> wrote in message
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>
> Yes sure I can, http://www.webkenya.com/pot_pourri/pano.html
>
> Top and bottom panos use the PTViewer applet
> Middle pano use an other Panorama applet
>
> Just let me know if it works.
>
> Thanks

Top and bottom are okay (well, they work, but the top image has a lot of gray
when you pan). Not getting anything on the middle one.

Whereabouts in Kenya are you? Anywhere near Malindi? (only place I've been in
K).


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From: tommy
Subject: Re: QTVR panoramas: conclusion and examples
Date: 10 Jul 2003 06:05:01
Message: <web.3f0d3951cd84272ba472d3920@news.povray.org>
Tom Melly wrote:

>Top and bottom are okay (well, they work, but the top image has a lot of gray
>when you pan). Not getting anything on the middle one.

Thanks. The gray part is the background.  It was just a test image, nothing
like Gilles's pic :)

>Whereabouts in Kenya are you? Anywhere near Malindi? (only place I've been in
>K).

Well, in the large Nairobi city (the green city of the sun)...  I stay in a
suburb called Karen (Karen Blixen territory) near the National park and the
girafes.
Indeed, Malindi is a very nice place (except that the town is tiny)...
Tourism is bad nowadays in Kenya since we had many terrorism alerts (and
most air companies have stop their flight).

Cheers,

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