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From: Mikael Pohjola
Subject: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 07:11:05
Message: <3de364d9@news.povray.org>
Hi, to you all!

  I have been using POV-Ray since v3.0, and I have read this newsgroup for a
year. I consider myself an experienced POVer. You guys have really a good
community!

  I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
don't write to it? There is a thight group who posts questions and
especially answers, but how big is the community really?

 The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.

#declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
#end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
(X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
light_source{20*y rgb 1}

  My images are on my homepage (link below).
--
  Mikael Pohjola
  emp### [at] cchutfi
  http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 07:34:15
Message: <g0q6uugbvc9mpbnog6m0sondtti3qrknk0@4ax.com>
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:11:04 +0200, "Mikael Pohjola" <emp### [at] cchutfi>
wrote:
> Hi, to you all!

Hi to you too :-)

> I have read this newsgroup for a year (...) I was wondering how many
> are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
> don't write to it?

I have read half of posts before my first posting into this server. And I hope
I have read all messages up to now. That's incredible knowledge behind this
community and I very like it.

> The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
> signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
> obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
>
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}

It will be shortened by other probably but ... I tried the same width as you
plus I added comment with initials.

plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M)L(mod(M,8)<mod(X,3)mod(Y,3)1>-
1)_(div(M,8)div(X,3)div(Y,3))#end#end light_source{20*y 1}#macro L(N,D)#if(N
)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5.5translate z*mod(9*P.gray,4)pigment{rgb P}rotate//MP
x*45translate P}L(N-1D)#end#end#local P=20*z-5*x;_(2301603551,12850,60365)

ABX
-- 
disc{z,-z#macro O()asc(substr("-+((1*(,1,/.-,*/(,&.323/'1"e 1))/10-4#declare
e=e-1;#end#local e=26;5pigment{#local g=function(_){ceil(_)-_}function#local
k=function{pattern{object{sphere_sweep{linear_spline 13#while(e)<O()O()>.01#
end}}}}{k(g(atan2(x,y)),g(ln(pow(x+y,2)+1e-5)),0)}}finish{ambient 1}}//ABX35


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From: Kaveh
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 08:28:14
Message: <1fm9r38.14o1lyr1bdkttbN%kaveh@delete_this.focalimage.com>
Mikael Pohjola <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote:

> The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
> signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
> obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
> 
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}

I love the idea. I would like to use it in an animation, where the light
rotates, and the shadow suddently turns into something recognizable.

-- 
Kaveh


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 09:26:48
Message: <3de384a8$1@news.povray.org>
"Mikael Pohjola" <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote in message
news:3de364d9@news.povray.org...
> Hi, to you all!
>

Hi Mikael

>   I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
> don't write to it? There is a thight group who posts questions and
> especially answers, but how big is the community really?

"put your hand up if you never put your hand up" - I think there might be a
problem here....

>
>  The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
> signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
> obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
>
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}
>

Nice - I played with something similiar (a shadow sig), but never finished it.
It's a shame the pigment on the blocks is so bright - why not try:
pigment{rgb D}
instead of:
pigment{rgb P}

>   My images are on my homepage (link below).
> --
>   Mikael Pohjola
>   emp### [at] cchutfi
>   http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/

Nice - are you using Rune's particle system on the fountains, etc.?


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 09:58:31
Message: <3DE38C17.CC798705@gmx.de>
Mikael Pohjola wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>   I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
> don't write to it? There is a thight group who posts questions and
> especially answers, but how big is the community really?

I suppose there are quite a lot of people who read these groups but don't
post.  And AFAIK the newsserver access statistics also indicate this.  The
number of POV-Ray users not using these newsgroups at all is probably a
lot higher.

And without the intention to discourage anyone to post here i think this
also has its positive effects.  If every POV-Ray user would ask all the
questions occuring to him in these groups (like some do ;-)) it would
become extremely difficult to maintain an open eye to those questions
really requiring some discussion within the lot of things that simply
could be answered by reading the manual or the FAQ.

Christoph

-- 
POV-Ray tutorials, include files, Sim-POV,
HCR-Edit and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/
Last updated 15 Nov. 2002 _____./\/^>_*_<^\/\.______


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From: Tom A 
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 10:06:02
Message: <3DE38DDA.28DF9EC0@my-deja.com>
Mikael Pohjola wrote:
> 
> Hi, to you all!

Hello!
 
>   I have been using POV-Ray since v3.0, and I have read this newsgroup for a
> year. I consider myself an experienced POVer. You guys have really a good
> community!

I don't consider myself an experienced POVer, but it is a fun hobby.  I
mostly lurk here, trying to collect useful tips.

>  The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
> signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
> obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
> 
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}

Nice.  How do you people come up with recursive functions like that (and
the shortest code contest - did they ever post the code for the second
one?)

>   My images are on my homepage (link below).
> --
>   Mikael Pohjola
>   emp### [at] cchutfi
>   http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/

Nice pictures.  

-- 
Tom A.
"Archie!  You are headstrong.  I am imperious.  It's a miracle 
we get along as well as we do." - Nero Wolf
Deja mail is gone.  Look for me at raugost at yahoo . com


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 10:42:35
Message: <3de3966a@news.povray.org>
Mikael Pohjola <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote:
>   I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
> don't write to it?

  My problem is a bit the opposite: I write too much and don't read
enough. :P

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 11:12:58
Message: <3de39d89@news.povray.org>
Mikael Pohjola <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote:
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}

  A bit shorter:

light_source{20*y,1}#macro _(M,X,Y,P)#if(M)#while(mod(M,8))#local P=P+<mod(X
,3)mod(Y,3)1>-1;box{-.5,.5translate z*mod(9*vlength(P)4)pigment{rgb P}rotate
x*45translate P}#local M=M-1;#end _(div(M,8)div(X,3)div(Y,3)P)#end#end
_(2301603551,12850,60365<-5,0,20>)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}


-- 
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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From: gonzo
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 12:55:06
Message: <web.3de3b55523682a10a0c272b50@news.povray.org>
Mikael Pohjola wrote:
>Hi, to you all!

Hello!

>  I have been using POV-Ray since v3.0, and I have read this newsgroup for a
>year. I consider myself an experienced POVer. You guys have really a good
>community!
>
>  I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
>don't write to it? There is a thight group who posts questions and
>especially answers, but how big is the community really?

You are right, POVers are an excellent community. I read these forums a lot,
but as I am just learning POV my questions are fairly basic. I find that
usually I can just search for it and someone has already posted something
similar that gets me going. Only once did I actually ask a question, but it
was answered within an hour.

> The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
>signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
>obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
>
>#declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
>z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
>#end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
>(X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
>light_source{20*y rgb 1}

Sorry, I haven't gotten into the signatures yet... I'll have to try some.

>  My images are on my homepage (link below).

Cool, keep at it!

>  Mikael Pohjola
>  emp### [at] cchutfi
>  http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/
>


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From: Mikael Pohjola
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 27 Nov 2002 07:24:46
Message: <3de4b98e$1@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
news:3de384a8$1@news.povray.org...
> "put your hand up if you never put your hand up" - I think there might be
a
> problem here....
>
I was hoping that it would be a problem, otherwise the news server would be
swamped with replys. :-)

> It's a shame the pigment on the blocks is so bright - why not try:
> pigment{rgb D}
> instead of:
> pigment{rgb P}
Too dark for me.

> Nice - are you using Rune's particle system on the fountains, etc.?
No, I did the macros for the fountain and the trees myself. I like to
reinvent the wheel. I think one learns more by doing it oneself. And
afterwards you can say that it is completely yours.

--
  Mikael Pohjola
  emp### [at] cchutfi
  http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/


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