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From: Kaveh
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 08:28:14
Message: <1fm9r38.14o1lyr1bdkttbN%kaveh@delete_this.focalimage.com>
Mikael Pohjola <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote:

> The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
> signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
> obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
> 
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}

I love the idea. I would like to use it in an animation, where the light
rotates, and the shadow suddently turns into something recognizable.

-- 
Kaveh


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 09:26:48
Message: <3de384a8$1@news.povray.org>
"Mikael Pohjola" <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote in message
news:3de364d9@news.povray.org...
> Hi, to you all!
>

Hi Mikael

>   I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
> don't write to it? There is a thight group who posts questions and
> especially answers, but how big is the community really?

"put your hand up if you never put your hand up" - I think there might be a
problem here....

>
>  The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
> signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
> obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
>
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}
>

Nice - I played with something similiar (a shadow sig), but never finished it.
It's a shame the pigment on the blocks is so bright - why not try:
pigment{rgb D}
instead of:
pigment{rgb P}

>   My images are on my homepage (link below).
> --
>   Mikael Pohjola
>   emp### [at] cchutfi
>   http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/

Nice - are you using Rune's particle system on the fountains, etc.?


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 09:58:31
Message: <3DE38C17.CC798705@gmx.de>
Mikael Pohjola wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>   I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
> don't write to it? There is a thight group who posts questions and
> especially answers, but how big is the community really?

I suppose there are quite a lot of people who read these groups but don't
post.  And AFAIK the newsserver access statistics also indicate this.  The
number of POV-Ray users not using these newsgroups at all is probably a
lot higher.

And without the intention to discourage anyone to post here i think this
also has its positive effects.  If every POV-Ray user would ask all the
questions occuring to him in these groups (like some do ;-)) it would
become extremely difficult to maintain an open eye to those questions
really requiring some discussion within the lot of things that simply
could be answered by reading the manual or the FAQ.

Christoph

-- 
POV-Ray tutorials, include files, Sim-POV,
HCR-Edit and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/
Last updated 15 Nov. 2002 _____./\/^>_*_<^\/\.______


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From: Tom A 
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 10:06:02
Message: <3DE38DDA.28DF9EC0@my-deja.com>
Mikael Pohjola wrote:
> 
> Hi, to you all!

Hello!
 
>   I have been using POV-Ray since v3.0, and I have read this newsgroup for a
> year. I consider myself an experienced POVer. You guys have really a good
> community!

I don't consider myself an experienced POVer, but it is a fun hobby.  I
mostly lurk here, trying to collect useful tips.

>  The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
> signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
> obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
> 
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}

Nice.  How do you people come up with recursive functions like that (and
the shortest code contest - did they ever post the code for the second
one?)

>   My images are on my homepage (link below).
> --
>   Mikael Pohjola
>   emp### [at] cchutfi
>   http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/

Nice pictures.  

-- 
Tom A.
"Archie!  You are headstrong.  I am imperious.  It's a miracle 
we get along as well as we do." - Nero Wolf
Deja mail is gone.  Look for me at raugost at yahoo . com


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 10:42:35
Message: <3de3966a@news.povray.org>
Mikael Pohjola <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote:
>   I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
> don't write to it?

  My problem is a bit the opposite: I write too much and don't read
enough. :P

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 11:12:58
Message: <3de39d89@news.povray.org>
Mikael Pohjola <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote:
> #declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
> z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
> #end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
> (X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
> light_source{20*y rgb 1}

  A bit shorter:

light_source{20*y,1}#macro _(M,X,Y,P)#if(M)#while(mod(M,8))#local P=P+<mod(X
,3)mod(Y,3)1>-1;box{-.5,.5translate z*mod(9*vlength(P)4)pigment{rgb P}rotate
x*45translate P}#local M=M-1;#end _(div(M,8)div(X,3)div(Y,3)P)#end#end
_(2301603551,12850,60365<-5,0,20>)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}


-- 
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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From: gonzo
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 26 Nov 2002 12:55:06
Message: <web.3de3b55523682a10a0c272b50@news.povray.org>
Mikael Pohjola wrote:
>Hi, to you all!

Hello!

>  I have been using POV-Ray since v3.0, and I have read this newsgroup for a
>year. I consider myself an experienced POVer. You guys have really a good
>community!
>
>  I was wondering how many are like me? I mean, follow this news-server, but
>don't write to it? There is a thight group who posts questions and
>especially answers, but how big is the community really?

You are right, POVers are an excellent community. I read these forums a lot,
but as I am just learning POV my questions are fairly basic. I find that
usually I can just search for it and someone has already posted something
similar that gets me going. Only once did I actually ask a question, but it
was answered within an hour.

> The other reason why I posted this message was that I finally made my own
>signature. Take a look at it (it has a hidden feature). You are free to
>obfuscate it, but I will probably keep it like this, since this is MY sig.
>
>#declare P=<-5,0,20>;#macro L(N,D)#if(N>0)#declare P=P+D;box{-.5,.5translate
>z*mod(9*vlength(P),4)pigment{rgb P}rotate<45clock,0>translate P}L(N-1,D)#end
>#end#macro _(M,X,Y)#if(M>0)L(mod(M,8),<mod(X,3),mod(Y,3),1>-1)_(div(M,8),div
>(X,3),div(Y,3))#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
>light_source{20*y rgb 1}

Sorry, I haven't gotten into the signatures yet... I'll have to try some.

>  My images are on my homepage (link below).

Cool, keep at it!

>  Mikael Pohjola
>  emp### [at] cchutfi
>  http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/
>


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From: Mikael Pohjola
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 27 Nov 2002 07:24:46
Message: <3de4b98e$1@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
news:3de384a8$1@news.povray.org...
> "put your hand up if you never put your hand up" - I think there might be
a
> problem here....
>
I was hoping that it would be a problem, otherwise the news server would be
swamped with replys. :-)

> It's a shame the pigment on the blocks is so bright - why not try:
> pigment{rgb D}
> instead of:
> pigment{rgb P}
Too dark for me.

> Nice - are you using Rune's particle system on the fountains, etc.?
No, I did the macros for the fountain and the trees myself. I like to
reinvent the wheel. I think one learns more by doing it oneself. And
afterwards you can say that it is completely yours.

--
  Mikael Pohjola
  emp### [at] cchutfi
  http://www.kolumbus.fi/ee.pohjola/mikael/


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From: Mikael Pohjola
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 27 Nov 2002 07:36:06
Message: <3de4bc36@news.povray.org>
"Christoph Hormann" <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3DE38C17.CC798705@gmx.de...
> If every POV-Ray user would ask all the
> questions occuring to him in these groups (like some do ;-)) it would
> become extremely difficult to maintain an open eye to those questions
> really requiring some discussion within the lot of things that simply
> could be answered by reading the manual or the FAQ.
You should start a group called Dumb Questions, where anybody could ask how
to get their media or radiosity to work, without comments like "Read the
doc.". The problem is to get people to post there and not to the
advanced-users group. :->

Mikael Pohjola

I have made small optimizations to the sig., now it fits in four lines:
light_source{20*y,1}#macro _(M,X,Y,P)#macro L(N,D)#if(N)#declare P=P+D;box{-
0.5,0.5translate z*mod(9*P.gray,4)pigment{rgb P}rotate 45*x+clock*y
translate
P}L(N-1,D)#end#end#if(M)L(mod(M,8)<mod(X,3)mod(Y,3)1>-1)_(div(M,8)div(X,3)di
v
(Y,3)P)#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365,20*z-5*x)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}


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From: Mikael Pohjola
Subject: Re: Hi POV-Ray users
Date: 27 Nov 2002 07:39:05
Message: <3de4bce9$1@news.povray.org>
"Mikael Pohjola" <emp### [at] cchutfi> wrote in message
news:3de4bc36@news.povray.org...
> I have made small optimizations to the sig., now it fits in four lines:
> light_source{20*y,1}#macro _(M,X,Y,P)#macro L(N,D)#if(N)#declare P=P+D;box{-
> 0.5,0.5translate z*mod(9*P.gray,4)pigment{rgb P}rotate 45*x+clock*y
> translate
> P}L(N-1,D)#end#end#if(M)L(mod(M,8)<mod(X,3)mod(Y,3)1>-1)_(div(M,8)div(X,3)di
> v
> (Y,3)P)#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365,20*z-5*x)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}
>
Damn, that automatic linewrapper!

light_source{20*y,1}#macro _(M,X,Y,P)#macro L(N,D)#if(N)#declare P=P+D;box{-
0.5,0.5translate z*mod(9*P.gray,4)pigment{rgb P}rotate 45*x+clock*y translate
P}L(N-1,D)#end#end#if(M)L(mod(M,8)<mod(X,3)mod(Y,3)1>-1)_(div(M,8)div(X,3)div
(Y,3)P)#end#end _(2301603551,12850,60365,20*z-5*x)plane{y,-9pigment{rgb 1}}


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