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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Commercial Povray
Date: 22 Mar 2002 05:05:33
Message: <3c9b01ed@news.povray.org>
Followups to povray.off-topic

> > Linux & associated apps are free, yet it has less than 1% of the desktop
> > market. Why?

> until now... Wait for koffice (still in an early stage, I know) or the
gnome
> equivalents. When such applications become an alternative to MS Office
(and
> when they are able to handle MS documents like there own) there should be
no
> reason for most companys not to use OS software. And they will, because
> support for OS software is much better, there is faster reaction on
problems
> and new standards can be established without the limitations beeing forced
> to one company. Just wait and see, how OS will develope...

Not a hope.

KOffice has 4 (four) developers, it will take them donkeys years to match
office 97, and what do you think MS will be doing with its small army of
developers in the mean time.

The fact that there are K & Gnome (etc etc) attempts at the office suit doom
all to failure, everybody is busy competing instead of collaborating.

Companies do more on their desktops than work in MS office, a powerful
office suit is only one step to the goal of (whatever alternative OS your on
about) on the desktop. and chances are it will be to many, featuring to
little, delivered far to late.


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Commercial Povray
Date: 22 Mar 2002 05:32:52
Message: <3c9b0854@news.povray.org>
>     free software can only survive providing quality product to an
existing
> community of users. On the opposite software company can use their
> commercial force to spread their products (who has ever  seen a PC
> configuration including Pov in any shop) and create needs or envies at
> customer level (even with blue screen).

Not true, the goal of any public software project (free or otherwise) is to
attract users, inwardly looking to an existing user base dooms your project
to obscurity

you will never see pov pre installed on a new home PC, but on that note, you
never see any other 3d rendering system installed either.

>     Pov is a ray tracer, and if it is not physically reallistic, it is
> dedicated to people who prefer refined work rather than productivity. I've
> played with 3DS max. and I did'nt like the menu appoach, the fake
> effects...; but I have to say that I would use this tool (3DS) in a
> profesional context (huge quantity of features, plugins, models..).

again, not true. pov & max are both tools that in capable hands can create
stunning works, the amount of 'refinement' often depends on the project in
hand and the users skill level.

Max is a very deap and powerful tool, its not something you can grasp from
just 'playing'

>     Generally, companies fear to work with freeware. One of the reason is
> that their main cost is not license fees, but the human workload. That's
why
> they often prefer to pay for software, from market leader, assuming that
> they will find  a better (paying) support, a longer product life, more
> skilled people... I do not totally agree with this, but it is the trend I
> can see (in europe).

from a commercial perspective, free software is good only for the short
term, as the continued success of said software is not dependant on its
popularity (and sales) but on its developers personnal, finicial and time
constraints.

>     Playing with a freeware make me feel to be part of a community of
> people, sharing the same hobby. Using a software make me feel to be a
> consumer: less positive.

you are a consumer regardless of the software's price.


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Commercial Povray
Date: 22 Mar 2002 07:02:27
Message: <3c9b1d53@news.povray.org>
> Followups to povray.off-topic
Last Mail about this topic...
> KOffice has 4 (four) developers, it will take them donkeys years to match
> office 97, and what do you think MS will be doing with its small army of
> developers in the mean time.
Hmmm... maybe you are right.
> The fact that there are K & Gnome (etc etc) attempts at the office suit
doom
> all to failure, everybody is busy competing instead of collaborating.
This doesn't have to be a bad thing. It can also improve quality. I think
without Gnome, KDE wouldn't be at this stage. But you are right in saiing
that there are not enough programmers.
> Companies do more on their desktops than work in MS office, a powerful
> office suit is only one step to the goal of (whatever alternative OS your
on
goal of what?
> about) on the desktop. and chances are it will be to many, featuring to
> little, delivered far to late.
Many small companies use Office especially Word only for really simple
textwork. This could be done easy with Word 6.0, so I don't think this stage
isn't achievable. But MS Office 97 formats should be supported, so that the
companies can test this alternative parallel to MS Office.
But let's leave it at that. It would be really great if there would be such
an alternative, but maybe I'm just dreaming ;). (I should join some open
source project)
Best regards,
Florian


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