> POV-Ray logo but I'm just amused. I red it yesterday
> and it's still funny!

:-)
It was very interesting. Very impressive how different the reactions are. I
expected an emotionless short answer. At least that is what I would do. Why
should I get into a bad mood just because of a posting?
However, some of the asnwers were kept calm which is always a good thing.

I am pleased to have amused you.
regards
SY

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BTW:

>    __________________
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>   |   this high -->  |
>   |                  |
>   |  to use POV-Ray  |
>   |__________________|
>           | |
>           | |
>           | |
>           | |
>           | |
>           | |
>           | |
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>           |_|
>  ________/   \___________

You shouldn't use blanks in ASCII graphics since it really looks weird at my
site due to a proportional font :)
regards
SY

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>
> ASCII graphics ... proportional font

You failed.


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> > ASCII graphics ... proportional font
>
> You failed.

So the failure is always on client side? Not really a "customer-oriented"
thinking, is it? :) <I know that I'm not your customer>

One could also say that the graphics wasn't tested enough and failed in
usage?

regards
SY

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news:3c97400f@news.povray.org...
> > > ASCII graphics ... proportional font
> >
> > You failed.
>
> So the failure is always on client side? Not really a "customer-oriented"
> thinking, is it? :) <I know that I'm not your customer>
>
> One could also say that the graphics wasn't tested enough and failed in
> usage?

Umm, no. It is commonly accepted that ascii art requires a non-proportional
font. Otherwise it will frequently fail, spaces or not.

Think about it.

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> Umm, no. It is commonly accepted that ascii art requires a
non-proportional
> font. Otherwise it will frequently fail, spaces or not.

Yep, that's what I meant. But it is not the "customers" fault if the
delivered thing doesn't work, except the user got it on it's own action. The
ASCII thing was sent to me (well, at least as an answer directed to me). So
the sender has to take care that it will work. Well, a bit a stressed
comparison .-)

> Think about it.

See above.

regards
SY

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You are too full of it and I am amazed that many have taken your posts
seriously.  Your posts amount to an insult to povray developers.
Maan


news:3c96ed71$1@news.povray.org...
> ... send flames to my personal e-mail address since it is OT in here just
to
> tell me that you hate me and what an idiot I am. Thanks!
>
> Very interesting how many people feel personally insulted when asking
about
> pricing policy. :-)
>
> To explain it a bit further: (for those who still read my posts)
>
> .) PoV is a great freeware Raytracer and a very good piece of software,
> documentation and support. The developers spend most of their spare time
(I
> guess) to keep the good work up. I really know what I'm speaking about
since
> I had to let die my Astronomy software due to the lack of time (with
roughly
> 4 hours a week I couldn't really do much in complex astronomical
> algorithms...).
>
> .) it is not unusual that excellent freeware turnes to shareware at some
> point to keep up web sites, support and development.
>
> .) The PoV team has costs for newsgroup, web space, buying compilers,
books
> or what ever. Currently they try to cover that by selling IRTC CD's,
> Keyrings (hey, I got mine yesterday!) and whatever. If this is enough and
> PoV can stay for free, it would be -great-
>
> .) If not, I wouldn't hesitate to buy PoV
>
> Seeing all this at a glance I can not beleive that there were never, ever
> some thoughts about pricing. The team calculates (has to calculate) the
> costs and try to cover them. The (planned?) book is another good idea for
> this. The team knows the costs and has a good feeling about the number of
> the users. I am sure it is easy to calculate a price necessary to keep up
> support ( if you count the -time- of the developers efforts it would be
> unpayable)
>
> But you all know this (even better than me, I guess) so why do I have to
> explain it?
>
> Just one thing I don't understand is, why people tell me that I am an
idiot
> if I do basic financial calculations and ask the developers about their
> results?
>
> regards
> SY
>
>
>

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"Maan M. Hamze" <mmh### [at] pleiadesnet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3c97538a@news.povray.org...
> You are too full of it and I am amazed that many have taken your posts
> seriously.  Your posts amount to an insult to povray developers.
> Maan

Oh, not at all! I always made clear that I am absolutely aware of PoVs
quality and the effort developing it!
A really excellent job.

I also would buy PoV if necessary. As mentioned also.
But there already 3 threads about pricing. I hope this doesn't start another
one :)

regards
SY

BTW: cool e-mail domain! Very nice open cluster.

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No one of the developers had ever mentioned anything about pricing.  So what
is the point of this topic?  We know they are doing an excellent job.  But
why the talk of pricing?  I thought that your post amounted to an insult
because you thought there was some hidden agenda to the expiring beta.  When
in reality, the developers want to make sure that users do not start asking
questions and reporting bugs based on old betas that are still running.  An
expiring beta does away with this problem.
As for the domain name :)  Yes I know.  It is my own domain :o)  Pleiades is
my favourite group of stars.  Although I do not own the actual cluster :)  I
am lucky to own the pleaides.net domain :)
Maan


news:3c975469@news.povray.org...
>
> "Maan M. Hamze" <mmh### [at] pleiadesnet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:3c97538a@news.povray.org...
> > You are too full of it and I am amazed that many have taken your posts
> > seriously.  Your posts amount to an insult to povray developers.
> > Maan
>
> Oh, not at all! I always made clear that I am absolutely aware of PoVs
> quality and the effort developing it!
> A really excellent job.
>
> I also would buy PoV if necessary. As mentioned also.
> But there already 3 threads about pricing. I hope this doesn't start
another
> one :)
>
> regards
> SY
>
> BTW: cool e-mail domain! Very nice open cluster.
>
>

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>
> One could also say that the graphics wasn't tested enough and failed in
> usage?

Let's see what the ASCII art FAQ says:

  "To view (and draw) ASCII art, you must use a fixed-width font."


Simple. Further, this is a newsgroup. You are using non-standard
settings in your newsreader. Don't obey Microsoft blindly, they
didn't invent the newsgroups, you know.


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Kari Kivisalo

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