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bob h schrieb in Nachricht <3c45df21@news.povray.org>...
>Guess I look too briefly at
http://www.povray.org/binaries/windows/beta.html
>when DL from there, I hadn't realized it states "By this time there will
>either be a new beta version available here or the final version of POV-Ray
>3.5 will be available." after the Feb. 10th 2002 date. Can anybody tell me
>if that has always been said?
>
Yes, it has been there since beta 1.
I noticed that other behaviour you described, too. Seems like people are
becoming fearful already, that the Team would do something they don't like
to see. I did not participate in any betatest before this one, but as far as
I can say, things are running good, don't they? Ok, there are still some
feature requests or the Team implements things in another way people like
them. But Pov 3.5 grows steadily to a more and more stable program, doesn't
it?
Keep up the good work, Team and Testers!
Marc-Hendrik
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> How about this:
> > at least 1000 other people did (that's approximately how many
> > povwin35-beta-10 copies were downloaded in the 24 hours since I put the
file
> > up - the first one being at 14 Jan 21:29 hrs US eastern standard time).
Well, I wouldn't call this an official announcement. It could be an ironic
(sort of) statement to the fact that no one waits till the announcement :-)
In fact I thought Chris might be a bit angry about that. (but I can
understand, that my interpretation of his statement ist not that logical).
Chris post is not a thread of it's own (well, maybe you don't like an extra
thread to the group, there are enough per day, and everyone searching the
group for real bugreports has to go through more than enough posts that
"consist" of no bug). But you could interprete the first answer of a
Pov-team-Member to a report of a bug-in-a-new-version as official
announcement, that now, you can dwonload the hot stuff...
If that's ok - ok.
Thank you anyway!
cukk
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Every day, just after 6:00 and before 7:00 the sun arises. It had never happened to
me, that I woke up wondering whether the sun would arise or not that day. I
intensively use a beta for my personal works, I don't care about expiration date, and
I almost forget it. Then one day POV-Ray, very politely I must say, tells me that
time has come, we have to salute, goodbye beta 9, AufWiedersen. I then go to
povray.org, where I expect the new beta to be. As always, I find it, download it, and
beta testing goes on. I wouldn't expect to read on a newspaper that, once again, the
sun has risen...
;-)
--
#local j=text{ttf"arial""JRG".2,0}#local J=0;#while(J<10)#local R=0;#while
(R<2)#local G=0;#while(G<1)#if(inside(j<R,G.1>))object{j scale.025translate
<R-1G-J/20J/-40+2>pigment{rgb<9J>}}#debug"O"#else#debug" "#end#local G=G+
.025;#end#local R=R+.05;#debug"\n"#end#local J=J+1;#end// JRG
Home: http://digilander.iol.it/jrgpov //New: Kitchen scene WIP
"KalleK" <kal### [at] gmx de> ha scritto nel messaggio news:3c45f6a4@news.povray.org...
> > How about this:
>
> > > at least 1000 other people did (that's approximately how many
> > > povwin35-beta-10 copies were downloaded in the 24 hours since I put the
> file
> > > up - the first one being at 14 Jan 21:29 hrs US eastern standard time).
>
> Well, I wouldn't call this an official announcement. It could be an ironic
> (sort of) statement to the fact that no one waits till the announcement :-)
> In fact I thought Chris might be a bit angry about that. (but I can
> understand, that my interpretation of his statement ist not that logical).
>
> Chris post is not a thread of it's own (well, maybe you don't like an extra
> thread to the group, there are enough per day, and everyone searching the
> group for real bugreports has to go through more than enough posts that
> "consist" of no bug). But you could interprete the first answer of a
> Pov-team-Member to a report of a bug-in-a-new-version as official
> announcement, that now, you can dwonload the hot stuff...
> If that's ok - ok.
>
> Thank you anyway!
>
> cukk
>
>
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"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
news:3c45f3c7@news.povray.org...
>
> bob h schrieb in Nachricht <3c45df21@news.povray.org>...
>
> >Guess I look too briefly at
> http://www.povray.org/binaries/windows/beta.html
> >when DL from there, I hadn't realized it states "By this time there will
> >either be a new beta version available here or the final version of
POV-Ray
> >3.5 will be available." after the Feb. 10th 2002 date. Can anybody tell
me
> >if that has always been said?
>
>
> Yes, it has been there since beta 1.
Oh. Thanks for telling me that. I couldn't trust my memory to know if it
had been all along or not.
> I noticed that other behaviour you described, too. Seems like people are
> becoming fearful already, that the Team would do something they don't like
> to see. I did not participate in any betatest before this one, but as far
as
> I can say, things are running good, don't they? Ok, there are still some
> feature requests or the Team implements things in another way people like
> them. But Pov 3.5 grows steadily to a more and more stable program,
doesn't
> it?
Yeah, maybe so... in a general way as it does have pitfalls. But gee, I
really liked visualizing that starving wolf pack tearing at an imaginary box
containing the next beta. Wonder if the people wanting to get at the source
code will be like that someday. :-)
Just to refresh some memories, this whole beta testing thing was reasoned
out as being better than releasing a half dozen 'final' versions last time.
You know, 3.1b to 3.1g. Have to wonder how many people out there might
actually be using 3.1e still.
bob h
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> Well, I wouldn't call this an official announcement. It could be an ironic
> (sort of) statement to the fact that no one waits till the announcement :-)
We almost never make an official announcement, beyond what's on the web site.
From my point of view, the page says (and has always said, paraphrased), 'if
the old beta expires you can get the new one from here', and that is how it
works.
Making an announcement is IMO redundant. If it's there, grab it, no-one will
get annoyed since I wouldn't put it up if I didn't want folks to download it ;)
-- Chris
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THANK YOU BOB, a voice of reason in a sea of confusion. I do not comb these
lists with a magnifiying glass as some people expect and so I thought the
web site was the best place to find out what was up. I didn't mean to
distract from all the hard work going on, I feel however like I tossed a
match on frayed nerves.
"bob h" <omn### [at] charternet> wrote in message
news:3c45df21@news.povray.org...
> "KalleK" <kal### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3c45d2e2$1@news.povray.org...
> >
> > Are you going to officially announce that beta 10 is up?
> > I wanna be one of the "good ones", not donwloading before the
> announcement,
> > because maybe you are going to change something lastminunte after
> realising a
> > "crashing bug". After someone (inofficially) announced beta 8, you told
us
> > that it is on you to annouce.
>
> One sec, please...
>
> A lot of anxiety going on lately; frayed nerves perhaps after such a long,
> grueling beta test period. It's a lot like watching wolf packs hunting
for
> the next meal in the middle of winter on PBS. ;-}
> I don't think people should be jumping all over poor Mitchell like that
> anyhow. He hasn't been beta testing the past year like so many others
have
> been doing. And hasn't even been here in the newsgroups much. Not
everyone
> can lurk for months without speaking up.
>
> Okay, now you can flame me at will.
>
> Yep, I see there hasn't been a official announcement made of #10, neither
> here at general nor at beta-test.
>
> Guess I look too briefly at
http://www.povray.org/binaries/windows/beta.html
> when DL from there, I hadn't realized it states "By this time there will
> either be a new beta version available here or the final version of
POV-Ray
> 3.5 will be available." after the Feb. 10th 2002 date. Can anybody tell
me
> if that has always been said?
>
> bob h
>
>
>
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Mitchell Waite <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote:
: I feel however like I tossed a match on frayed nerves.
It's not that. It's just that if you despise POV-Ray or the people
responsible for it, no matter how innocently, you will get flamed. People
don't like that.
--
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}// - Warp -
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Despise: Look down on with disdain, condemn, reject with contempt. I think
what I wrote in no way fits that characterization. However I would say the
reaction was bordering on contemptuous. There must be a lot of super
sensitive people working on the beta, so I will try to walk on egg shells
and keep my humor to a minimum.
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3c4624b3@news.povray.org...
> Mitchell Waite <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote:
> : I feel however like I tossed a match on frayed nerves.
>
> It's not that. It's just that if you despise POV-Ray or the people
> responsible for it, no matter how innocently, you will get flamed. People
> don't like that.
>
> --
> #macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb
M()}}
> N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
> N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}// -
Warp -
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bob h wrote:
> Just to refresh some memories, this whole beta testing thing was reasoned
> out as being better than releasing a half dozen 'final' versions last time.
> You know, 3.1b to 3.1g. Have to wonder how many people out there might
> actually be using 3.1e still.
I have like 16 pvengine.exe files scattered across 4 partions on my HD.
I didn't check versions but I am reasonably confident that at least one
of them is an early beta version of v3.1 ( I think "v3.1a").
--
Ken Tyler
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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:3C4### [at] pacbellnet...
>
> I didn't check versions but I am reasonably confident that at least one
> of them is an early beta version of v3.1 ( I think "v3.1a").
I had heard that one wasn't let out to the public, so you had beta tested
it? I presumed that one was the very first and there wasn't a 3.1 without
appended letter. Maybe I'm not recalling that right.
bob h
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