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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 11 Nov 2001 09:20:09
Message: <3bee8919@news.povray.org>
In article <3BEE78D7.FE358AF4@free.fr> , Adrien Beau <adr### [at] freefr>
wrote:

>> Since when is ActiveX an Internet standard???
>
> Perhaps he was speaking about the ability to load a PNG in
> a web page?

Yes, but it doesn't make any sense in this context.  At least not if you
read the message and what he replied to with it.  Somehow Bob got it all the
other way around...

    Thorsten

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From: Slime
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 11 Nov 2001 13:17:18
Message: <3beec0ae$1@news.povray.org>
>   And makes the page Windows-IE-only?

Well, the Active-X object only works in IE. But the script I linked to
doesn't make the page IE only, It simply takes a page that works in all PNG
supporting browsers and *also* makes it work in IE.

Personally, I think this is just another way that MS is trying to beat out
its competition (making designers use  Active-X objects rather than standard
HTML for simple stuff like this).

>   (And you could people PLEASE quote properly?)

And sorry about the quoting thing, I'm not used to newsgroups, I usually
post in typical UBB forums where quoting isn't necessary (and often
considered annoying). I'll try my best. =)

- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3bee2c61@news.povray.org...
> Slime <noo### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> : No, but if you work with web pages at all, and you're interested in
using
> : transparent images in IE, there's an Active-X object that loads a PNG
file
>
>   And makes the page Windows-IE-only?
>
>   (And you could people PLEASE quote properly?)
>
> --
> #macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
> rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
> ],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
> 7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 12 Nov 2001 06:32:56
Message: <3befb368@news.povray.org>
Slime <noo### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
:>   (And you could people PLEASE quote properly?)

: And sorry about the quoting thing, I'm not used to newsgroups, I usually
: post in typical UBB forums where quoting isn't necessary (and often
: considered annoying). I'll try my best. =)

  Of course I should have said "And could you people...". I'm not perfect
either. :)

  Quoting properly is rather simple. Look at this article itself as an
example of proper quoting.
  Just some simple rules:

  1. Quote first, answer then.
  2. Remove unnecessary quotes. Quote what you are answering to, nothing else.
  3. Don't leave any quote at the end of your post. It serves no-one to leave
something quoted there.

  Your response should look something like this:

SomeGuy <som### [at] somewherecom> wrote:
: A statement in the original article.

  A response to that statement.

: Another statement in the original article.

  A response to this one.

  No quotes at the end of the article.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 12 Nov 2001 11:42:09
Message: <3beffbe1$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" wrote:
>   Quoting properly is rather simple. Look at this
> article itself as an example of proper quoting.
>   Just some simple rules:

I think it would be nice if something like this could be posted to
povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions, perhaps even inside the AUP, but
not necessarily. The worst case is writing one new line and then quoting
100+ lines in the end of the message, which unfortunately happens quite
often...

Rune
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From: Rev  Bob 'Bob' Crispen
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 12 Nov 2001 20:33:08
Message: <Xns9157C59E9698revbob@127.0.0.1>
The kindly Rev. overheard "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
saying on 11 Nov 2001: 

>> Perhaps he was speaking about the ability to load a PNG in a web
>> page? 
> 
> Yes, but it doesn't make any sense in this context.  At least not
> if you read the message and what he replied to with it.  Somehow
> Bob got it all the other way around...

Right you are.  I thought we were still talking about MSIE 6 and 
Mozilla.  My bad.
-- 
Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen
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What we end up getting: journeys


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 12 Nov 2001 21:02:43
Message: <3BF07F76.DCCF6EEF@pacbell.net>
Rune wrote:

> I think it would be nice if something like this could be posted to
> povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions, perhaps even inside the AUP, but
> not necessarily. The worst case is writing one new line and then quoting
> 100+ lines in the end of the message, which unfortunately happens quite
> often...

People adopt quoting styles that they themselves are comfortable with.
While we have discussed the possiblity of posting something like that
it has been argued that few will comply and we would also end up looking
like a bunch of nit picking control freaks. For the most part the majority
of people around here use acceptable quoting practices. It's not nearly
as bad here as what you see on USENET.

--
Ken Tyler


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 13 Nov 2001 03:21:33
Message: <3bf0d80d@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: we would also end up looking
: like a bunch of nit picking control freaks.

  I am one of those. ;)

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Arthur Flint
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 13 Nov 2001 06:29:44
Message: <Xns9158420807085mrartchesapeakenet@204.213.191.226>
Ken scribis news:3BF07F76.DCCF6EEF@pacbell.net:

> we would also end up
> looking like a bunch of nit picking control freaks. 
> Ken Tyler

Well, I have a basket full of used nits at my house if anyone wants to pick 
some, but as for controling the freaks, it will never happen on my watch.

-- 
Gis posta, Arto.


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 13 Nov 2001 11:25:37
Message: <3bf14981$1@news.povray.org>
"Ken" wrote:
> While we have discussed the possiblity of posting
> something like that it has been argued that few will
> comply and we would also end up looking like a bunch
> of nit picking control freaks.

Ok, I understand. I guess we can just have Warp tell them now and then when
it gets too bad. ;)

Rune
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: PNG and Alpha
Date: 13 Nov 2001 20:46:48
Message: <3BF1CD40.92EEBD6D@pacbell.net>
Rune wrote:
> 
> "Ken" wrote:
> > While we have discussed the possiblity of posting
> > something like that it has been argued that few will
> > comply and we would also end up looking like a bunch
> > of nit picking control freaks.
> 
> Ok, I understand. I guess we can just have Warp tell them now and then when
> it gets too bad. ;)

I am sure Warp will not mind in the least...

-- 
Ken Tyler


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