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Greg M. Johnson wrote in message <3A142E5D.75A6A9EC@my-dejanews.com>...
>Wlodzimierz ABX Skiba wrote:
>> if you just name subdirectories as
>> clouds1, clouds2, focblur, globals, isosrf1, isosrf2, layers, loops,
>> macro, media1, media2, pigments, plant, sky, tree1, tree2, variabls,
>> water1, water2, water3
>
> This could be done but certainly must not be the only way of locating
the
> tuts. What if someone used media to make water? What if someone wrote
a
> sPatch tutorial to make trees? A brilliant recursive macro to make a
> trees?
I'm not talking about watching your cd-rom
I'm talking about fast serching through directories with a little memory
yes, when I write list above I know that you can point that two
problems are described in one tutorial
but I write about situation when I know what I'm looking for
I exactly remember which tutoriual, I only want small part of source
(i.e. settings for media or radiosity)
> We could make some kind of dual structure for the tuts, where there
> is one big TXT file which simply lists a title or something about
every
> tut--the povray.binaries.tutorials structure you are insisting on.
yes, this is used in many ftps, good idea I think
> > I think you don't want prepare cdrom for one watch
> > I hope, you want povers to use your "product" every day
>
> Yes, I trust your noble motive in this regard and thanks for putting
up with
> my ornery counter-suggestions.
I didn't want be ironic, I hope you don't think that
my english could be raw
sometimes I must use elipses to express what I want
for example tonight I plan write very long post to p.u-p
but I'm affraid about proper words
ABX
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"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
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> By a "povray webring structure", I mean both of the following:
> I) a table of URL's added to every page which at least say
> go back to tut search page,
> go to next tut by this author,
> go to next tutorial on macros,
> go to next tutorial on trees,
> Save this tutorial's zip file as,
> go to CD main page, etc.
>
> and
> II) Every tutorial looks vaguely similar to my own
> (http://www.geocities.com/pterandon/boids.html) much moreso than like p.b.t.
> . IMO this will provide much more benefit to the purchaser wanting to use
> it every day than having the only structure on the CD being like p.b.t..
>
That sounds quite good to me, but adding a list with all the tuts
including the categories they are registered under would not hurt IMO and
could be useful for a quick overview etc.
Christoph
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Homepage: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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Christoph Hormann wrote:
> That sounds quite good to me, but adding a list with all the tuts
> including the categories they are registered under would not hurt IMO and
> could be useful for a quick overview etc.
Certainly part of the plan for the html main page and "search engine." The
question is to what degree to accomodate someone looking only at the raw directory
structure and not the html pages.
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"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
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> Also note that the 10best.raytrace.com copyright (
> http://10best.raytrace.com/10bestcopy.txt ) says:
>
I just read the licence agreement and found that it would not have hurt to
restrict the use of submissions to the purpose of promoting Povray. I
don't want to imply any bad intentions and promoting Povray is probably
the primary intention by everyone involved in that project, but since it
is a legal document, this seems a good idea to me.
Christoph
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Christoph Hormann wrote:
> I just read the licence agreement and found that it would not have hurt to
> restrict the use of submissions to the purpose of promoting Povray. I
> don't want to imply any bad intentions and promoting Povray is probably
> the primary intention by everyone involved in that project, but since it
> is a legal document, this seems a good idea to me.
Chris Cason wrote it.
If he makes a display ad to sell the CD using say the winner of the "cover
image contest," would someone say that's not promoting povray?
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"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
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> Chris Cason wrote it.
> If he makes a display ad to sell the CD using say the winner of the "cover
> image contest," would someone say that's not promoting povray?
No, just thought it would have been a good idea to write it in the licence
agreement, but no need to worry about it.
Christoph
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Homepage: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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In article <3A142E5D.75A6A9EC@my-dejanews.com>,
gre### [at] my-dejanewscom wrote:
> I have a STRONG personal adversion to being forced to unzip a few dozen
> files to see if it is what I'm looking for, so I insist that some kind of
> html search page is part of the tutorials section on the CD.
Nobody needs to unzip anything! I don't know where you get this idea
that people are suggesting you put .zip files in those folders...
Again, NO .ZIP FILES ARE NEEDED!
Just put the files on the CD, completely unzipped, each in their own
folder. Make sure each tutorial has an "index.html" page, and link to
that page, all you have to worry about is the path to it, which will be
extremely short if you don't do a bunch of categorization. This will
both make the maintenence of the HTML code easier and it will allow
people to access the files directly *without any additional work on your
part*!
--
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:02:40 -0500, Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>Like how many is a problem?
On most Unix systems performance gets very bad somewhere between 10,000
and 100,000 entries in a single directory. But that's for their native
filesystems, not ISO-9660. I haven't done any tests on CD-ROM, and I
don't know enough about that filesystem to calculate it, but keeping all
files in a single directory is almost certainly not a good idea.
hp
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:46:59 -0500, Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>Well, my philosophy is that only on rare occasions would anyone have to poke
>around the raw directory structure. I don't want it to be like p.b.t. I
>aim to make it html navigable. People will be confused & burdened with 200
>subdirectories or with 2000 items in one directory.
200 Subdirectories with understandable names are a lot less confusing
than 2000 files with meaningless names. Subdirectories are also good if
people use their browser, since the URL will indicate in which tutorial
they are, and whether a link points to another tutorial or to a
different part of the same tutorial.
hp
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:41:25 -0500, Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>I'd like the collection to look something much more like the povray webring
>than say povray.binaries.tutorials. I'd like it to be linked HTML pages
>rather than a collection of ZIP files.
Absolutely.
>Q1: Is the opposition to this proposal based on an assumption of a pile of
>ZIP's?
Absolutely not. If you just have a bunch of ZIPs, subdirectories might
be optional (you can think of the ZIPs as "subdirectories"), but if you
don't have ZIPs (and I see no reason why you should use ZIPs, there's
space for a lot of tutorials on a CD), you need the subdirectories to
structure the whole thing.
>I'm thinking that it will be a much bigger pain to write the CD if
>there are 100 subdirectories,
Why do think so?
>Q2: Isn't this similar to the IRTC rewriting your carefully chosen file
>names to suit its purposes, as it dumps everything into one folder, no?
No. In IRTC, every picture stands on its own. But on a tutorial CD-ROM,
all the files in a single tutorial belong together and should be in an
extra directory. If you have many tutorials, you might also want to
group related tutorials together.
hp
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