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From: Scott Hill
Subject: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 11:42:07
Message: <3b7d3b4f@news.povray.org>
I know it's possible to find out at http://tag.povray.org/ but, would it
be possible for all the tag members to put something in their respective
.sigs to this effect ?
    I only ask because with all the talk about 3.5 lately (particularly what
will and won't be included) it would be nice to know whether what one is
reading carries any kind of weight (that is, assuming the TAG team know what
they're talking about regarding 3.5)...

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 12:26:55
Message: <slrn9nqheg.dl5.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:41:31 +0100, Scott Hill wrote:
>    I only ask because with all the talk about 3.5 lately (particularly what
>will and won't be included) it would be nice to know whether what one is
>reading carries any kind of weight (that is, assuming the TAG team know what
>they're talking about regarding 3.5)...

They do, and of course we do, but there are others that are neither Team
nor TAG who know what they're talking about regarding 3.5, so such an 
indicator would not be as useful as you might think.

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From: Scott Hill
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 13:26:15
Message: <3b7d53b7$1@news.povray.org>
"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] fwicom...
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:41:31 +0100, Scott Hill wrote:
> >    I only ask because with all the talk about 3.5 lately (particularly
what
> >will and won't be included) it would be nice to know whether what one is
> >reading carries any kind of weight (that is, assuming the TAG team know
what
> >they're talking about regarding 3.5)...
>
> They do,

    They do ? I didn't want to point fingers, but, lets see, shall we :

Exhibit A : Warps posting in the "Re: Why trace don't work with method 2
isosurfaces" in p.u.p - no mention that he's a TAG member there...
Exhibit B : Ken Tylers posting in the "Re: Question about icon" thread in
p.w - no mention that he's a TAG member...

> and of course we do

    Well, I was talking about the TAG, not the POV-Team...

> but there are others that are neither Team
> nor TAG who know what they're talking about regarding 3.5, so such an
> indicator would not be as useful as you might think.
>

    Sure, but there's a lot of talk about 3.5 around atm, and it would be
nice to have some indication of what's likely to be true, without having to
remember exactly who is a TAG member...

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 13:45:13
Message: <slrn9nqm1b.dmr.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:25:41 +0100, Scott Hill wrote:
>"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
>news:slr### [at] fwicom...
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:41:31 +0100, Scott Hill wrote:
>> >    I only ask because with all the talk about 3.5 lately (particularly
>what
>> >will and won't be included) it would be nice to know whether what one is
>> >reading carries any kind of weight (that is, assuming the TAG team know
>what
>> >they're talking about regarding 3.5)...
>>
>> They do,
>
>    They do ? I didn't want to point fingers, but, lets see, shall we :

I meant "they do know what they're talking about regarding 3.5."

>    Sure, but there's a lot of talk about 3.5 around atm, and it would be
>nice to have some indication of what's likely to be true, without having to
>remember exactly who is a TAG member...

Well, those who post with "@tag.povray.org" on their addresses might be
TAG members.

My point is that as Chris mentioned in his post, there are people who have 
access to pre-beta builds of 3.5 who are neither Team members nor TAG
members, so knowing who is and isn't won't help a bit with your real 
concern.

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From: Scott Hill
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 14:04:34
Message: <3b7d5cb2@news.povray.org>
"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] fwicom...
>
> Well, those who post with "@tag.povray.org" on their addresses might be
> TAG members.
>

    Sure, but my news reader just lists, for example, Warps posts as from
"Warp", I only get to see the @tag.povray.org if I specifically check the
message properties, or someone, with a reader that put's it into 'previous
message' bit, replies to one of his posts...

> My point is that as Chris mentioned in his post, there are people who have
> access to pre-beta builds of 3.5 who are neither Team members nor TAG
> members, so knowing who is and isn't won't help a bit with your real
> concern.
>

    And my point was that there are people saying things about 3.5 and in
the vast majority of cases there's no easy way to determine how valid what
is being said is - if one could just glance at the .sig and see 'TAG' then
one could assume that what they're saying is probably accurate - as it
stands, unless you know that someone is a TAG or POV-Team member or you go
to the effort of finding out, the only safe thing to do is to take any talk
of 3.5 with a pinch of salt...

BTW, yes, all this is dependant on what news reader one is using and a
better one would list the authors full e-mail address, but, just how many
people are reading these groups in anything other than OE (or another reader
that hides the information) ?
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 15:10:24
Message: <3b7d6c1f@news.povray.org>
Scott Hill <nos### [at] nospamthanks> wrote:
: (that is, assuming the TAG team know what
: they're talking about regarding 3.5)...

  I wouldn't bet on that...

  Just kidding ;)

  Could this be good?:

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rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//      (TAG-member)   - Warp -


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 15:15:38
Message: <3b7d6d5a@news.povray.org>
Scott Hill <nos### [at] nospamthanks> wrote:
: people are reading these groups in anything other than OE (or another reader
: that hides the information) ?

  Is this the famous "information hiding" thing which most OO-programming
people talk about? ;)

  (I could make a Microsoft joke about that, but I'll reserve those to
povray.off-topic.)

-- 
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rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Scott Hill
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 20:11:59
Message: <3b7db2cf@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3b7d6c1f@news.povray.org...
>
>   Could this be good?:
>
> --
> #macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
> rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
> ],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
> 7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//      (TAG-member)   - Warp -

    Yeah, that's the kinda thing I was thinking of - just some easy way to
see that what you write carries some weight and that you probably do know
what you're talking about...

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 17 Aug 2001 21:25:29
Message: <3B7DC4A1.F31FA254@pacbell.net>
Scott Hill wrote:
> 
>     I know it's possible to find out at http://tag.povray.org/ but, would it
> be possible for all the tag members to put something in their respective
> .sigs to this effect ?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Who are the TAG team ?
Date: 18 Aug 2001 05:58:34
Message: <3b7e3c49@news.povray.org>
Scott Hill <nos### [at] nospamthanks> wrote:
:     Yeah, that's the kinda thing I was thinking of - just some easy way to
: see that what you write carries some weight and that you probably do know
: what you're talking about...

  Somehow I feel like it would be too much "advertising". Like saying
"Hey! Look everybody! I'm a TAG member and you aren't, he he!".

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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