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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 21 Jan 2001 22:33:19
Message: <3A6BAA36.7EB9EE8F@tiac.net>
> Why does there have 
> to be a dedicated group of select developers?  Couldn't the entire 
> community (well, anyone who has the desire) be the "PovTeam"?

In a sense they are through Megapov. If your patch is good and
people in general find it useful then it can make it into the
official version, what's wrong with that?

-- 
Phil
...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.


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From: Hookflash
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 21 Jan 2001 22:41:18
Message: <Xns9030C804464C3hookflashhotmailcom@204.213.191.228>
>If you've read the documentation you'd realise that POV-Ray *does* have
>a commercial value and that what you just said isn't true.
>
>There are funds to steal, and there is intellectual property to steal.
>
>--
>Lance.
>
>http://come.to/the.zone
>

I said that PovRay was freeware, whereas 3DS Max is a commercial *product*.  
Whether or not PovRay has "commercial value" is irrelevant to our 
discussion, since PovRay is not being sold as a commercial product.  Also, 
the intellectual property cannot be stolen since it's freely available for 
download.  

Hookflash


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 21 Jan 2001 23:38:35
Message: <3A6BB9B4.8B98C1C4@simberon.com>
I've posted my picture at the following address:

    http://www.simberon.com/povray/access.bmp

Enjoy.
David Buck
dav### [at] simberoncom

"Bob H." wrote:

> "David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message
> news:3A6### [at] simberoncom...
> > seldom worked hard to create a "really cool" image.  The only one I did that
> > was involved was the rendering of a Nortel switch with a computer, TV, and
> > telephone surrounding them.  I don't have the original sources, but I could
> > probably scan the image and post it so you can see it.
>
> I for one would thoroughly love to see a work done by you, I can't say I ever
> have before.
>
> Bob H.


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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 22 Jan 2001 00:22:43
Message: <3A6BC3F5.CB7E9A91@unforgettable.com>
Hookflash wrote:
> 
> >If you've read the documentation you'd realise that POV-Ray *does* have
> >a commercial value and that what you just said isn't true.
> >
> >There are funds to steal, and there is intellectual property to steal.
> 
> I said that PovRay was freeware, whereas 3DS Max is a commercial *product*.
> Whether or not PovRay has "commercial value" is irrelevant to our
> discussion, since PovRay is not being sold as a commercial product.  Also,
> the intellectual property cannot be stolen since it's freely available for
> download.

Intellectual property is a joke, IMNSHO. However, in the sense that IP
can be "stolen" at all, it can be stolen from the various contributors
to POV-Ray. Whether or not POV-Ray is being sold for money is completely
irrelevant to the fact that it enjoys the same protection under the law
as 3DS Max or any other piece of commercial software.

-Xplo


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 22 Jan 2001 00:40:37
Message: <3a6bc7d5@news.povray.org>
> I said that PovRay was freeware, whereas 3DS Max is a commercial
*product*.
> Whether or not PovRay has "commercial value" is irrelevant to our
> discussion, since PovRay is not being sold as a commercial product.  Also,

POV-Ray, as outlined in the documentation, has a commercial retail price,
not just commercial value.

> the intellectual property cannot be stolen since it's freely available for
> download.

The intellectual property can be considered stolen if someone resells it, as
outlined in the documentation.

--
Lance.

http://come.to/the.zone


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From: Fabien Mosen
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 22 Jan 2001 00:42:17
Message: <3A6BC7EE.1E436637@skynet.be>
Hookflash wrote:

> I said that PovRay was freeware, whereas 3DS Max is a commercial *product*.
> Whether or not PovRay has "commercial value" is irrelevant to our
> discussion, since PovRay is not being sold as a commercial product.  Also,
> the intellectual property cannot be stolen since it's freely available for
> download.

You understood nothing about intellectual property, then.
What could be stolen is indeed the free-ness of POV-Ray.  If someone
took parts of POV-Ray to include in a commercial product (as could
happen with your views), it would be theft, making money on the
back of people who whished to share something for free.

Fabien.


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 22 Jan 2001 00:48:14
Message: <3a6bc99e@news.povray.org>
Well said.

--
Lance.

http://come.to/the.zone


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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 22 Jan 2001 03:59:58
Message: <3a6bf68e@news.povray.org>
"David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message
news:3A6BB9B4.8B98C1C4@simberon.com...
> I've posted my picture at the following address:
>
>     http://www.simberon.com/povray/access.bmp
>
> Enjoy.

Did, thanks.  I thought I was going to be disappointed and see a photo of you
yourself. har har

Bob H.


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From: David Burnett
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 23 Jan 2001 15:03:07
Message: <980279872@bigfoot.com>
ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker) wrote...
>On 21 Jan 2001 19:28:27 -0500, Hookflash wrote:
>
>Yeah.  You know Linux.  That OS that just won Salon's vaporware of the 
>year award for kernel 2.4.

Despite the fact that people have been runnig it for months before the 
award.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Hi from DKBTrace author
Date: 23 Jan 2001 21:17:51
Message: <3A6E3B54.E6135A63@faricy.net>
David Buck wrote:

> I've posted my picture at the following address:
>
>     http://www.simberon.com/povray/access.bmp

Cool! Good compositioning. Is that a word?

I woulda posted a PNG btw.

--
David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/


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