Failure to use <target="_blank">  and/or right click to new window causes me
trouble with:
1) Password protected sites like Geocities' HTML editor, where use of the
"back" button gives a  "Data missing : post error"
message. I lost my whole first draft of my boids page this way.
2) Just about every site with a frame.
I am appreciative when link pages open OTHER sites in new windows, too.

The following are annoying:
1) Splash pages. How idiotic.  Would Yahoo have survived if every time I
went there I saw a 65 kb image which said "You're at Yahoo!" ?
2) Over use of new windows WITHIN one site.


Chris Huff wrote:

> In article <39fa9d18@news.povray.org>, "Mick Hazelgrove"
> <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote:
>
> > I hadn't realised how much people hate new windows appearing for
> > links. I rather like it as I don't lose contact with the parent site.
> > however there is always the back button.
> >
> > I was intending to do something similar to David Fontaine's virtual
> > gallery.
> >
> > Given the antipathy to the idea I don't think I'll bother.
>
> I actually prefer link pages that open other sites in new windows.
> One solution would be to offer pairs of links, a "Go to page" and a "New
> window with page" link. Have the URL text be the "go to page" link, and
> a little button following it be the "new window with page" link.
> Compact, and it should please everyone...this is what I plan to do when
> I get around to rebuilding my site.
>
> --
> Christopher James Huff
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>
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On 30 Oct 2000 04:39:10 -0500, Warp wrote:

>  The worst think about this is that you can't disable this feature (at
>least not in Netscape). This is the most irritating thing about it.

Also annoying is the fact that the back button in a newly opened window
doesn't work, or should I say doesn't take you back to the page that 
you came from, having to close the new window breaks the surfing 
flow. 
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:39f97b50@news.povray.org...
> I want to make links, on my web page to other web pages, open in new
> windows. Can any one help with code, links etc.

    Just as a vote, I prefer a new page when you are sending me somewhere
else, when you are just giving me a small bit of info in text (tool tip
like) or when you are giving me an image or diagram as an addendum to your
text. That way I can send it to the back while it loads and continue reading
your text.

    There are ways to disable resize and toolbars so that they don't get out
of hand.

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Bill DeWitt wrote:

>     Just as a vote, I prefer a new page when you are sending me somewhere
> else, when you are just giving me a small bit of info in text (tool tip
> like) or when you are giving me an image or diagram as an addendum to your
> text. That way I can send it to the back while it loads and continue reading
> your text.
>
>     There are ways to disable resize and toolbars so that they don't get out
> of hand.

Of course, toolbar=0, resizable=0, location=0...

I love how javascript is so intuitive!

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In article <slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain>, 
ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet wrote:

> Also annoying is the fact that the back button in a newly opened window
> doesn't work, or should I say doesn't take you back to the page that 
> you came from, having to close the new window breaks the surfing 
> flow.

The back button works in new windows in iCab...this is more a common 
browser flaw, not a site design issue. I suggest you submit a feature 
request to the makers of your favorite browser... :-)

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On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:11:27 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
>hmm, how about a bit of javascript form to give the users a preferred
>setting (same window or new). Default to same window. Could even save the
>choice as a cookie?

No, don't use javascript unless it's necessary.  Lynx can handle frames and
new windows, but it can't handle javas*t.

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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] fwicom...
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:11:27 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
> >hmm, how about a bit of javascript form to give the users a preferred
> >setting (same window or new). Default to same window. Could even save the
> >choice as a cookie?
>
> No, don't use javascript unless it's necessary.  Lynx can handle frames
and
> new windows, but it can't handle javas*t.
>

Hmm, you're right - I was thinking that the javascript could work alongside
standard html, by over-riding the target (which would leave a default for
non-javascript browsers). However, that can't be done. You could still work
around it using no script tags, but it would mean twice as much coding for
each link.

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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:24:17 -0000, Tom Melly wrote:
>"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
>news:slr### [at] fwicom...
>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:11:27 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
>> >hmm, how about a bit of javascript form to give the users a preferred
>> >setting (same window or new). Default to same window. Could even save the
>> >choice as a cookie?
>>
>> No, don't use javascript unless it's necessary. Lynx can handle
>> frames and new windows, but it can't handle javas*t.
>>
>
>Hmm, you're right - I was thinking that the javascript could work alongside
>standard html, by over-riding the target (which would leave a default for
>non-javascript browsers). However, that can't be done.

It can be done. For example, the WIFO staff pages
(http://www.wifo.ac.at/staff/) contain HTML like this (slightly edited):

    <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
     
	function CreatePortraitWindow() { 
	    NewWindow = window.open("", "portrait", 
	    "width=400,height=250,status=yes,scrollbars=no,resize=no,menubar=no") 
	} 
     
    </script>

    [...]

    <a href="tel_guger.html" 
       target="portrait"  
       onclick = "CreatePortraitWindow ()" 
   > 
	<img src="../icons/camera.gif" border="0">
    </a>

This will open a new window with the specified size and attributes, if
JavaScript is enabled. It will create a new window (via the target
attribute) with default size and attributes if the browser doesn't
support or has disabled JavaScript, but can open new windows. It will
replace the document in the current window if it cannot open new
windows. So this will work for all browsers in a reasonable way.

	hp

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"Peter J. Holzer" <hjp### [at] SiKituwsracat> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] tealhhjpat...
>
> It can be done. For example, the WIFO staff pages

Looks good - I was thinking of putting the function call in the href, in
onclick makes much more sense. Thanks.

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Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote:
: Lynx can handle frames and new windows

  Btw, I currently think that lynx sucks big time and w3m rules.
  Let's take for example my CSG-reference page (a big table). Lynx shows it
this way:

    http://www.cs.tut.fi/~warp/lynx.png

while w3m shows it this way:

    http://www.cs.tut.fi/~warp/w3m.png

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