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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 03:46:11
Message: <39780071.5F9A93E5@home.com>
I have been saving up for a new, "killer", PC, well sorta killer. I
currently have the following:

PII 400
128MB RAM
Creative TNT1 Vid card
8Gig HD
2NIC's
Winmodem
SoundBlaster Live! Platinum
CambrideSoundWorks DTT2500 Digital Speakers
17" NEC MultiSync 70 Screen

I am going to get the hollowing:

PIII800
128-256MB RAM
Asus V6800 Deluxe Vid Card
40Gig HD
DVD drive
(The rest of the stuff will be the same)

Whichm upgrade the CPU or the RAM would give me the biggest boost in
Pov-Ray? Or an I already at the point where I would not notice any
difference? If that is the case I might get a larger monitor?

Oh yeah I use Moray to model ALL my scenes, so that is another
consideration, I also use Rhino 3D a lot.

--
Come visit my web site:-) : http://www.geocities.com/~thomaslake/


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 03:54:21
Message: <3978003C.B67260D6@pacbell.net>
Thomas Lake wrote:
> 
> I have been saving up for a new, "killer", PC, well sorta killer. I
> currently have the following:
> 
> PII 400
> 128MB RAM
> Creative TNT1 Vid card
> 8Gig HD
> 2NIC's
> Winmodem
> SoundBlaster Live! Platinum
> CambrideSoundWorks DTT2500 Digital Speakers
> 17" NEC MultiSync 70 Screen
> 
> I am going to get the hollowing:
> 
> PIII800
> 128-256MB RAM
> Asus V6800 Deluxe Vid Card
> 40Gig HD
> DVD drive
> (The rest of the stuff will be the same)
> 
> Whichm upgrade the CPU or the RAM would give me the biggest boost in
> Pov-Ray? Or an I already at the point where I would not notice any
> difference? If that is the case I might get a larger monitor?
> 
> Oh yeah I use Moray to model ALL my scenes, so that is another
> consideration, I also use Rhino 3D a lot.

CPU first for speed, memory second and only if your scenes are
becoming memory intensive enough that you are having to use your
hard drive to make up for a lack of memory (lots of #while loops
and such).

For a general run down on performance see -

http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#renderingspeed

-- 
Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 04:06:59
Message: <397804a3@news.povray.org>
Definitely the CPU...

I got a 5 times speed increase when I went to a PIII from my PII (according
to RC5 anyway, my Q3A framerate jumped massively too).

CPU first, then the RAM, IMO.

--
Lance

The Zone
http://come.to/the.zone


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 05:01:05
Message: <39781151@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: CPU first for speed, memory second and only if your scenes are
: becoming memory intensive enough that you are having to use your
: hard drive to make up for a lack of memory (lots of #while loops
: and such).

  The #while loops themselves do not take memory (they are CPU-intensive).
If millions of objects are created inside the loop, then it will be memory,
intensive (although the #while is not directly related to it; it's just
a shortcut).

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: ryan constantine
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 06:32:22
Message: <39782602.5B3124E3@yahoo.com>
i agree with everyone else.  cpu.

Thomas Lake wrote:
> 
> I have been saving up for a new, "killer", PC, well sorta killer. I
> currently have the following:
> 
> PII 400
> 128MB RAM
> Creative TNT1 Vid card
> 8Gig HD
> 2NIC's
> Winmodem
> SoundBlaster Live! Platinum
> CambrideSoundWorks DTT2500 Digital Speakers
> 17" NEC MultiSync 70 Screen
> 
> I am going to get the hollowing:
> 
> PIII800
> 128-256MB RAM
> Asus V6800 Deluxe Vid Card
> 40Gig HD
> DVD drive
> (The rest of the stuff will be the same)
> 
> Whichm upgrade the CPU or the RAM would give me the biggest boost in
> Pov-Ray? Or an I already at the point where I would not notice any
> difference? If that is the case I might get a larger monitor?
> 
> Oh yeah I use Moray to model ALL my scenes, so that is another
> consideration, I also use Rhino 3D a lot.
> 
> --
> Come visit my web site:-) : http://www.geocities.com/~thomaslake/


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From: Paul Vanukoff
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 10:10:15
Message: <397859c7$1@news.povray.org>
And here I am slogging along with:

Cyrix @ 166Mhz
48MB RAM
Unknown 4MB S3 based vid card
2.5ig HD
1 NIC
3com/USR Courier
SoundBlaster AWE32
Cheap-ass speakers
17" Sony Trinitron

Can I have your old stuff ... hehehe ... :D
--
Paul Vanukoff

"Thomas Lake" <tla### [at] homecom> wrote in message
news:39780071.5F9A93E5@home.com...
> I have been saving up for a new, "killer", PC, well sorta killer. I
> currently have the following:
>
> PII 400
> 128MB RAM
> Creative TNT1 Vid card
> 8Gig HD
> 2NIC's
> Winmodem
> SoundBlaster Live! Platinum
> CambrideSoundWorks DTT2500 Digital Speakers
> 17" NEC MultiSync 70 Screen
>
> I am going to get the hollowing:
>
> PIII800
> 128-256MB RAM
> Asus V6800 Deluxe Vid Card
> 40Gig HD
> DVD drive
> (The rest of the stuff will be the same)
>
> Whichm upgrade the CPU or the RAM would give me the biggest boost in
> Pov-Ray? Or an I already at the point where I would not notice any
> difference? If that is the case I might get a larger monitor?
>
> Oh yeah I use Moray to model ALL my scenes, so that is another
> consideration, I also use Rhino 3D a lot.
>
> --
> Come visit my web site:-) : http://www.geocities.com/~thomaslake/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 10:22:25
Message: <slrn8ngntu.1u0.ron.parker@linux.parkerr.fwi.com>
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:10:13 -0700, Paul Vanukoff wrote:
>And here I am slogging along with:
>
>Cyrix @ 166Mhz
>48MB RAM
>Unknown 4MB S3 based vid card
>2.5ig HD
>1 NIC
>3com/USR Courier
>SoundBlaster AWE32
>Cheap-ass speakers
>17" Sony Trinitron

I'm getting by with:

200MHz Pentium (not MMX)
64MB RAM
generic S3 ViRGE video card 
6.5G 5.25" Quantum Bigfoot HD
Artisoft AE-2 thinnet ethernet card
generic DEC Tulip 10/100baseT ethernet card 
no modem
SoundBlaster 16
no speakers (a mono headset, though)
14" Packard Bell monitor that I'm borrowing from my sister.

Of course, that's the machine I usually use.  Sometimes my wife lets me use
the Windows machine that's got similar specs (233 MHz AMD K6, 160M RAM, 6.5G
Seagate HD, unused Zoom 56K modem, two ethernet cards, two soundcards, and 
on-board SiS video.  Yes, one of the ethernet cards is currently unused.)

-- 
Ron Parker   http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions.  Mine.  Not anyone else's.


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 10:36:53
Message: <39786005@news.povray.org>
"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] linuxparkerrfwicom...

> I'm getting by with:
>
> 200MHz Pentium (not MMX)

A P75 for me (overclocked to a whopping 90)

and people wonder why there are so few objects in my IRTC entries....

(that said, my current one is using isosurfaces, media, and radiosity -
maschochistic, moi?)


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From: Dick Balaska
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 11:50:07
Message: <3978710C.D54B789D@buckosoft.com>
Tom Melly wrote:

> (that said, my current one is using isosurfaces, media, and radiosity -
> maschochistic, moi?)

must be a masterbater? :)

dik


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Which upgrade would help the most?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 12:08:08
Message: <chrishuff-66EF18.11084321072000@news.povray.org>
In article <slr### [at] linuxparkerrfwicom>, 
ron### [at] povrayorg wrote:

> I'm getting by with:
> 
> 200MHz Pentium (not MMX)
> 64MB RAM
> generic S3 ViRGE video card 
> 6.5G 5.25" Quantum Bigfoot HD
> Artisoft AE-2 thinnet ethernet card
> generic DEC Tulip 10/100baseT ethernet card 
> no modem
> SoundBlaster 16
> no speakers (a mono headset, though)
> 14" Packard Bell monitor that I'm borrowing from my sister.

And I'm using a beige Power Mac G3 desktop with:
266MHz PowerPC G3 with 512K of backside cache
96MB RAM
32MB ATI Nexus 128 video card, in addition to the built in 2MB ATI Rage 
II video.
Internal 4GB HD, external 9.1GB SCSI LaCie HD.
24x CD-ROM
Built in 10Base-T ethernet, never used it though...
56k modem(which never seems to connect above 33.6k).
Built-in sound
Some fairly good external speakers and a really cheap stereo headset.
14" VividView color monitor on my left, 17" Apple Multiple Scan monitor 
in front.
A ScanMaker V600 scanner.
And running Mac OS 9.0.4. LinuxPPC is also installed, but hasn't been 
booted up for several months...

I'm also hoping to get a CD-RW drive for my birthday, in a couple days...

-- 
Christopher James Huff - Personal e-mail: chr### [at] maccom
TAG(Technical Assistance Group) e-mail: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
Personal Web page: http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG Web page: http://tag.povray.org/


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