"Peter Cracknell" wrote:
> Even better why not someone finish off this POV-logo business
> and replace the er not so nice one.

I think it would be nice to have a POV-Ray logo on the site, but I certainly
don't think we should "finish off the POV-logo business". If there's
anything I've learned by managing the contest, it is that the process of
making/choosing a good logo takes time.

I expect the whole contest to be over in about half a year +/- a month or
two. I think finding a good logo for POV-Ray is a task where we should not
go on compromise.

Greetings,

Rune

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"Scott Hill" wrote:
>     Actually, what I think would be really neat is if that image
> changed regularly, each time demonstrating different aspects of
> POVRay - one week a nice Poser girl showing mapping features,
> the next a teddybear showing the power of media, and so on...

Err, there already *is* a ever-changing image on the front page!

Right now we have an ever-changing image in the middle, and the poser girl
to the right.

What you want is an ever-changing image in the middle, and another
ever-changing image to the right? I don't see the reason.

I'm not defending the poser girl. I personally think that the ever-changing
image in the middle is enough by itself, and that we don't need anything to
the right at all. I just wish the ever-changing image in the middle used
some newer and better images that could really show off POV-Ray's
features...

That's my opinion anyway.

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Rune

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"vaihtoehto" wrote:
> i dislike the design..
> although traditional and thus easy to navigate it lacks
> personality and looks like one of thousands home-made
> homepages spread all around net.

I agree.

> i'm not too happy with the poser girl, either, but that's
> just because i happen to dislike poser anyway...

Me too, and because I don't think poser is "typical POV-Ray-ish".

> i would prefer more collage art style of design (pieces and
> closeups of famous pov-pictures etc.. with strong one-color
> lines)

Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. But at least *something* more original and
better than the current design!

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Rune

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SamuelT wrote:
> 
> If you're running Windows (95 and over) you can press alt+tab to switch
> applications easily. If you're running a Macintosh, you can do the same,
> except it's command+tab.

With Linux, it's also alt-tab, by most window managers.

Remco Poelstra

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"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message
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> Just went to the POV-Ray page looking for links, and it happens to have
> a new design !
> It looks like it's still a work in progress. I hope that there will be
> new things in the "under construction pages".
> First remarks:
> - It certainly loads faster (javascript gone) which is better.
> - I'm not too happy with the colours which are a tad dark, and with the

I'd rather the colours were a little too dark than too bright - the orange
background of the previous site wasn't that great IMHO.

> Poser girl, which I find too Poseresque (that hair, ahem..) and not a
> good demo for the mapping abilities that should be in Povray 3.5.

Why has everyone leapt on her so much? (if you'll excuse the expression ;)
She shows how a natural looking object can be rendered by POV, and made to
look reasonably realistic.  Assuming the site is made to appeal to ~new~
visitors (we all know what POV can do, so it hardly matters what they put on
the package;) then this ability to reproduce something seen in real life
(erm, assuming they don't spend a little too long at the computer ;) would
be impressive.  Just using something like a teapot doesn't give quite the
same effect - I'm not quite sure why, but maybe it's because it's already
man-made in the first place.
ok, some people might argue that it shouldn't be there as it's obvious it
hasn't been hand-coded in POV script - but there are plenty of other images
on the site that have, and many new visitors aren't really going to be too
bothered by this - to them, it's simply an impressive image and so another
reason to get interested in POV.
I also think it adds a welcome "casual" feel - that POV isn't always used
for serious images... sure, some people might think (quite rightly) that a
women dressed somewhat sparingly in leopard-skin is a little cheesy... but
what's the problem with a bit of light-heartedness?  Showing new visitors an
accurately modelled isosurface of a complex function doesn't quite get the
"tell me more" factor going (for, erm, some people anyway).
As a final little point, the suggestion of scrapping her in place of a
spaceship (hand coded in real pov script) seems to reinforce the slightly
stereotypical view some people may have of computer modellers... ;)

Matt

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Andrea Ryan <ary### [at] global2000net> wrote:
: The girl is not a very good mascot for POV.

  Why not?

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It looks cool.
  It's good that they have finally got rid of the frames.
  And the colors are ok to me.

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Rune <run### [at] inamecom> wrote:
: I agree. Also, I think the background color should be a lot brighter. In my
: opinion dark text on bright background always look more professional than
: bright text on dark background...

  But it hurts your eyes more.

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More recent examples of POV's remarkable capabilities would be a definite
improvement.  IMHO I can't understand why almost no new images have been
exhibited since the IRTC's 1998 December round.  While "First Strike at
Pearl" and "Arkansas Chickens VS. EBE's" are incredible images what of the
most recent award-winning pieces of the IRTC?

-Chris-

Rune <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
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>I think it would be better with a motive that
> changes from time to time, and that's exactly what we already have! The
> picture in the middle that is. I think it's the best demonstration of the
> features of POV-Ray, especially if they began using some newer and better
> images.

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I'm also at 1024x768 and it looks perfect.  Granted the site is under
construction, but I didn't have any scrolling problems and everything seems
well-proportioned on my screen.

-Chris-

Dave Blandston <gra### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
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> > > It's too small on my 1280x1024.
> >
> > And it's too big on my 800x600. That's much worse!
>
> It's even too big for 1024x768!

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