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From: David Fontaine
Subject: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 22 Feb 2000 23:41:12
Message: <38B36454.8E1C7DD2@faricy.net>
25 sec with Explorer
22 sec with LiteStep
14% faster
now anyone know where I can find a nice big archive of wharf tiles? Or
should I render my own? :-)

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From: Mike Weber
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 00:38:08
Message: <38b37240@news.povray.org>
What is LiteStep ?

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David Fontaine wrote in message <38B36454.8E1C7DD2@faricy.net>...
>25 sec with Explorer
>22 sec with LiteStep
>14% faster
>now anyone know where I can find a nice big archive of wharf tiles? Or
>should I render my own? :-)
>
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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 01:32:09
Message: <38B38045.A0E96D63@geocities.com>
Mike Weber wrote:

> What is LiteStep ?
>
>

Some shell replacement for windows to make it look like NextStep.

http://www.litestep.org/

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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 01:36:03
Message: <38b37fd3@news.povray.org>
David Fontaine wrote in message <38B36454.8E1C7DD2@faricy.net>...
>25 sec with Explorer
>22 sec with LiteStep
>14% faster
>now anyone know where I can find a nice big archive of wharf tiles? Or
>should I render my own? :-)


There are some sites. Start at www.litestep.org (If it still exists)
Rendering
your own is the best way. I have some nice backgrounds if you want

Another advantage of litestep
 Normal windows
   Explorer raised a fatal exception
   Reboot
 With litestep
   Explorer raised a fatal exception
   Close explorer
   Carry on working


Gail
running Litestep for two years without significant problems
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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 03:32:05
Message: <38B39C66.1EB804C2@geocities.com>
Serge LAROCQUE wrote:

> I checked out litestep.org..... Now I've seen it all... a windows
> desktop trying to look like a linux desktop :)) (cf. afterstep and KDE)
>

Actually, I think it's trying to look like a Unix/Next desktop.

IIRC, afterstep is a clone of NextStep, and KDE is a clone of CDE.

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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 04:10:14
Message: <38b3a3f6@news.povray.org>
Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote:
:> I checked out litestep.org..... Now I've seen it all... a windows
:> desktop trying to look like a linux desktop :)) (cf. afterstep and KDE)

: Actually, I think it's trying to look like a Unix/Next desktop.

  You should already know that most pc people call _EVERY_ unix program
a linux program.

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 05:29:26
Message: <38b3b686@news.povray.org>
I finally put LiteStep on here a couple months ago and only used it a month
because the various parts (Wharfs, Dwarfs, Virtual Desktop, etc.) I had put
together were causing problems I guess.
Maybe it's too late for me and Windows has me forever bound to it and there's no
escaping.
Seriously(?) though, I was doing a "Refresh" of LiteStep so often I finally
decided to go back and just Restart Windows occasionally instead.

Bob

"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] monotixcoza> wrote in message
news:38b37fd3@news.povray.org...
|
| David Fontaine wrote in message <38B36454.8E1C7DD2@faricy.net>...
| >25 sec with Explorer
| >22 sec with LiteStep
| >14% faster
| >now anyone know where I can find a nice big archive of wharf tiles? Or
| >should I render my own? :-)
|
|
| There are some sites. Start at www.litestep.org (If it still exists)
| Rendering
| your own is the best way. I have some nice backgrounds if you want
|
| Another advantage of litestep
|  Normal windows
|    Explorer raised a fatal exception
|    Reboot
|  With litestep
|    Explorer raised a fatal exception
|    Close explorer
|    Carry on working
|
|
| Gail
| running Litestep for two years without significant problems
| *******************************************************************
| * gsh### [at] monotixcoza              * ERROR: COFFEE.COM not found  *
| * http://www.rucus.ru.ac.za/~gail/ * Insert cup and press any key *
| *******************************************************************
| * Definition of an upgrade: Take the old bugs out, put new ones in*
| *******************************************************************
|
|


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 06:22:56
Message: <38b3c310@news.povray.org>
Bob Hughes wrote in message <38b3b686@news.povray.org>...
>I finally put LiteStep on here a couple months ago and only used it a month
>because the various parts (Wharfs, Dwarfs, Virtual Desktop, etc.) I had put
>together were causing problems I guess.
>Maybe it's too late for me and Windows has me forever bound to it and
there's no
>escaping.
>Seriously(?) though, I was doing a "Refresh" of LiteStep so often I finally
>decided to go back and just Restart Windows occasionally instead.
>


Strange. The only time I refresh litestep is when i add something to the
start menu
and want the popup to reflect it or edited the step.rc.  Explorer crashes
about once a day, litestep
once a month if that

I did find that it's best to put litestep on a clean install of windows.
there might have been some
odd programs causing problems.

Gail
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* gsh### [at] monotixcoza              * ERROR: COFFEE.COM not found  *
* http://www.rucus.ru.ac.za/~gail/ * Insert cup and press any key *
*******************************************************************
* Definition of an upgrade: Take the old bugs out, put new ones in*
*******************************************************************


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 06:51:16
Message: <38b3c9b4@news.povray.org>
Well the main reason I quit using it was that I had troubles with the Virtual
Desktop, the clocks date insisted it was the year 100, and I couldn't get a
weather app to show up consistently.  Just didn't make sense to keep using LS if
the things I wanted to try and make a different Windows desktop with weren't
going to go right.  Oh, and the Start Menu replacement never worked right
either, it wouldn't scroll past the ends; a very important factor, to me anyway.
That doesn't mean I won't go back and retry it again someday though, since I
suppose a new build of LiteStep.exe itself will be available someday perhaps.
Let's just say that I'm not convinced anything is more worth the trouble than
Windows.  Everything else still has to be set up from scratch it seems to me
(Linux, etc.).  If the next PC I get has dual booting to either Win or Linux,
for example, then I'll be there to try it out  ;-)  I just can't see putting all
my time into getting something else working.  I spent that whole month doing
mostly that LiteStep stuff it seemed and nothing much else.  Where's the sense
in that see?  And not even ending up with a working system to use.
But again, for playtime it's fun to do different things.  Sorry, but that's how
I see it.

Bob

"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] monotixcoza> wrote in message
news:38b3c310@news.povray.org...
|
| Bob Hughes wrote in message <38b3b686@news.povray.org>...
| >I finally put LiteStep on here a couple months ago and only used it a month
| >because the various parts (Wharfs, Dwarfs, Virtual Desktop, etc.) I had put
| >together were causing problems I guess.
| >Maybe it's too late for me and Windows has me forever bound to it and
| there's no
| >escaping.
| >Seriously(?) though, I was doing a "Refresh" of LiteStep so often I finally
| >decided to go back and just Restart Windows occasionally instead.
| >
|
|
| Strange. The only time I refresh litestep is when i add something to the
| start menu
| and want the popup to reflect it or edited the step.rc.  Explorer crashes
| about once a day, litestep
| once a month if that
|
| I did find that it's best to put litestep on a clean install of windows.
| there might have been some
| odd programs causing problems.
|
| Gail
| *******************************************************************
| * gsh### [at] monotixcoza              * ERROR: COFFEE.COM not found  *
| * http://www.rucus.ru.ac.za/~gail/ * Insert cup and press any key *
| *******************************************************************
| * Definition of an upgrade: Take the old bugs out, put new ones in*
| *******************************************************************
|
|


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: LiteStep really is faster...
Date: 23 Feb 2000 08:39:36
Message: <38b3e318@news.povray.org>
"Bob Hughes" wrote:
>
> I spent that whole month doing
> mostly that LiteStep stuff it seemed and nothing much else.
>

    That was about my experience. I spent a week trying to get it to do that
"extremely configurable" thing and then found I didn't use the desktop that
much anyway. I used my programs. Wasn't worth the trouble, but if there is a
real speed increase in Povray....


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