Nieminen Juha wrote:
> 
>   You should already know that most pc people call _EVERY_ unix program
> a linux program.
> 

We also know it's a sure-fire way to tick you off...

Margus

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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> 
>     That was about my experience. I spent a week trying to get it to do that
> "extremely configurable" thing and then found I didn't use the desktop that
> much anyway. I used my programs. Wasn't worth the trouble, but if there is a
> real speed increase in Povray....

Depends, I guess...
POV+Litestep was slower here. So was POV as the shell, which is a bit weird.
POV also renders slower on my machine under Linux, but beats the pants off
WinPOV when parsing/swapping.

Margus

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Gail Shaw wrote:

> Another advantage of litestep
>  Normal windows
>    Explorer raised a fatal exception
>    Reboot
>  With litestep
>    Explorer raised a fatal exception
>    Close explorer
>    Carry on working

If it'll even cause the error in the first place anymore... :-)

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Bob Hughes wrote:

> I finally put LiteStep on here a couple months ago and only used it a month
> because the various parts (Wharfs, Dwarfs, Virtual Desktop, etc.) I had put
> together were causing problems I guess.
> Maybe it's too late for me and Windows has me forever bound to it and there's no
> escaping.
> Seriously(?) though, I was doing a "Refresh" of LiteStep so often I finally
> decided to go back and just Restart Windows occasionally instead.

Since LiteStep is freeware, it is bound to have some bugs.
Since LiteStep is freeware, it is bound to be updated quite frequently.

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"Margus Ramst" <mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote in message
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> Nieminen Juha wrote:
> >
> >   You should already know that most pc people call _EVERY_ unix
program
> > a linux program.
> >
>
> We also know it's a sure-fire way to tick you off...
>
> Margus

You mean, there *is* a difference between Linux and UNIX? ;)

Johannes.

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"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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>
> Since LiteStep is freeware, it is bound to have some bugs.
> Since LiteStep is freeware, it is bound to be updated quite
frequently.


Oops. Some freeware programmers may take offense when you hint that
freeware *always* has bugs.
I don't, since I know that it is true (well, I'm no freeware programmer
either). I just want to point out that this is no problem of freeware
alone:

*All* non-trivial software contains bugs. Period.


Johannes.

P.S.
BTW: Up-to-date developers don't call them bugs anymore, but defects.
"Bug" sounds like something that happened to the system without you (the
developer) being able to do anything against it ("This bug just crawled
in and broke my code!"), while in 99.9999% of all cases, it is actually
a development mistake, and thus a defect of the product. My, aren't we
politically correct today? ;)

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"Johannes Hubert" <jht### [at] nove-mailcom> wrote in message
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> You mean, there *is* a difference between Linux and UNIX? ;)

I forgot to mention that I pronounce Linux as Lie-nicks ;))

Johannes.

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Johannes Hubert <jht### [at] nove-mailcom> wrote:
: You mean, there *is* a difference between Linux and UNIX? ;)

  Well, I think that it's the same difference as between povray and
a raytracer.

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Johannes Hubert wrote:

> Oops. Some freeware programmers may take offense when you hint that
> freeware *always* has bugs.
> I don't, since I know that it is true (well, I'm no freeware programmer
> either). I just want to point out that this is no problem of freeware
> alone:

Pardon me :-)

> *All* non-trivial software contains bugs. Period.

Yes. But since LiteStep is freeware, it can be updated more often. With
stuff like Windows, they can release patches, but to make any considerable
changes, they pack it up under a new name, send it through marketing, and
make you *pay money* to get rid of *their* bugs. Case in point, Win98 vs.
Win95. Basically the same, but much more stable. And $90 just to upgrade.

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Margus Ramst wrote:
> 
> POV also renders slower on my machine under Linux, but beats the pants off
> WinPOV when parsing/swapping.
> 

Cancel that...
I recompiled POV (and the kernel) with gcc 2.95 and full PII optimisations.
Rendering speed the is about the same (quite a bit faster when there are many
objects). Parsing is almost 2X faster (!)

Margus

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