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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 06:01:18
Message: <38917657.D23E4BFB@xs4all.nl>
Nieminen Juha wrote:
> 
> Remco de Korte <rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote:
> : I believe it would also work with the Onmouseover-tag.
> 
>   Isn't that java-script?
> 

Might be.
Which doesn't make it Java.
Besides it doesn't need the Javascript tags, so who would know? ;)

Remco


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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 06:02:09
Message: <3891768B.F28363DF@xs4all.nl>
Johannes Hubert wrote:
> 
> Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
> news:38911C3F.2E9218F8@geocities.com...
> 
> > I'd think it would be a good idea to leave the status bar alone.
> It's
> > not as bad as the <BLINK> tag, but some consider it close.
> 
> I agree!
> 
> Greetings,
> Johannes.

Me agree too.

Remco


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 11:32:37
Message: <3891C5D7.8EEBA750@geocities.com>
Remco de Korte wrote:

> Nieminen Juha wrote:
> >
> > Remco de Korte <rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote:
> > : I believe it would also work with the Onmouseover-tag.
> >
> >   Isn't that java-script?
> >
>
> Might be.
> Which doesn't make it Java.
> Besides it doesn't need the Javascript tags, so who would know? ;)
>
> Remco

Yes. It's either jscript or JavaScript.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 14:43:54
Message: <3891EEA9.34ED0010@faricy.net>
> I agree! I often take a look at the status bar when the mouse is over the
> link to see where the link leads to. If the link is an image for example
> (like in your gallery), I like to see if the linked object is a HTML page
> that contains the image, or if it is the image directly. That sort of stuff.
> And I just hate it if I can't see this information, because the page chooses
> to overwrite the statusbar with some own information.

This is the only way I see to do it though.

> I agree with Jon's other post: Use the ALT-attribute of the link tag for
> your information. Then the user will see your information in a small
> tool-tip bubble while the mouse pointer rests over the link.

It doesn't work in Netscape with image maps. That was the whole problem in the
first place.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 14:46:29
Message: <3891EF44.4EA3F59D@faricy.net>
> No Java or JavaScript (two entirely different things) needed. Just use
> an imagemap. It should work one way or another in most every browser.
> It's even in the official 3.2 specs, so it's very safe to use.
>
> Here's a quick example:
>
> <HTML>
> <HEAD>
> <TITLE>Imagemap test</TITLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
>
> <H1>Imagemap test</H1>
>
> <IMG SRC="colors.png" USEMAP="#basemap">
>
> <P>That was a simple imagemap with one hot area</P>
>
> <MAP NAME="basemap">
> <AREA SHAPE=rect HREF="joncruz.html" COORDS="0,0, 100,200" ALT="Jon A.
> Cruz">
> <AREA SHAPE=rect HREF="someSubDirectory/" COORDS="110,0, 200,200"
> ALT="Mystery Artist">
> </MAP>
>
> </BODY>
> </HTML>

But Netscape doesn't show the tooltips.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 15:02:35
Message: <3891F309.B6B035FA@faricy.net>
Well, I'm gonna go ahead with the mouseover status-bar thing. I know,
it's considered "bad", blah blah blah, but it's the only way I see to do
it given that NS won't show the ALT ot TITLE in tooltips.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 15:14:33
Message: <3891F5D0.9ABF951F@faricy.net>
> Well, I'm gonna go ahead with the mouseover status-bar thing. I know,
> it's considered "bad", blah blah blah, but it's the only way I see to do
> it given that NS won't show the ALT ot TITLE in tooltips.

BTW someone said it would be better to link to the actual pics rather than
the galleries; I didn't do this because AFAIK, isn't it bad netiquette? If
you have an idea as to how to set up the links to go to the pic AND the
gallery, tell me :-)

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 16:15:21
Message: <389206e9@news.povray.org>
Image map (using entire museum image) which uses a inner and outer area for each
picture?  Except your museum doesn't have the "paintings" aligned well for that.
Unless you were to use circle instead of rectangle and figured them as a sort of
target area and not exact dimensions.  At least that way if you were to click on
a central part of each picture then it could take the browser to the picture
itself, and clicking on the immediate surrounding area (corners, frame region)
would take you to the gallery.  Not sure what Netscape thinks of those internal
selection zones, believe it did alright, IE 4 and 5 seem okay with them.
Don't ask me about netiquette, something I know very little about.

Bob

"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
news:3891F5D0.9ABF951F@faricy.net...
| > Well, I'm gonna go ahead with the mouseover status-bar thing. I know,
| > it's considered "bad", blah blah blah, but it's the only way I see to do
| > it given that NS won't show the ALT ot TITLE in tooltips.
|
| BTW someone said it would be better to link to the actual pics rather than
| the galleries; I didn't do this because AFAIK, isn't it bad netiquette? If
| you have an idea as to how to set up the links to go to the pic AND the
| gallery, tell me :-)
|
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 19:32:57
Message: <38923247.3F463500@faricy.net>
> Image map (using entire museum image) which uses a inner and outer area for each
> picture?  Except your museum doesn't have the "paintings" aligned well for that.
> Unless you were to use circle instead of rectangle and figured them as a sort of
> target area and not exact dimensions.  At least that way if you were to click on
> a central part of each picture then it could take the browser to the picture
> itself, and clicking on the immediate surrounding area (corners, frame region)
> would take you to the gallery.  Not sure what Netscape thinks of those internal
> selection zones, believe it did alright, IE 4 and 5 seem okay with them.
> Don't ask me about netiquette, something I know very little about.

I used 'polygon', of course! Can you make overlapping areas, or would I need a
compound definition of surrounding area? I was thinking of this, but I figured it
would be overly complex to have "click in the general vicinity of person's artwork
to go to his/her website". Maybe if I inserted name plates or something and made
them link to the gallery... or maybe a page opens up at my site that loads the image
from the other person's site in which there is also a link to their gallery...

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Linked POV-museum page is up and a java question
Date: 28 Jan 2000 20:43:37
Message: <WkWSOCedxyPhIcWFJZEGfWC1Ay0q@4ax.com>
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:50:33 -0600, David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet>
wrote:

>Well, I'm gonna go ahead with the mouseover status-bar thing. I know,
>it's considered "bad", blah blah blah, but it's the only way I see to do
>it given that NS won't show the ALT ot TITLE in tooltips.

Why bad? Make it show something like this:

http://www.foo.com/bar/picture.jpg   A great pic by John Smith

Everyone should be happy then.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
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