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From: Paul Vanukoff
Subject: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 4 Jan 2000 20:16:11
Message: <38729b5b@news.povray.org>
I just installed POV-Ray on my linux box and it is rendering a scene right
now. I have a question. Is there a way to get it to display the approximate
percentage complete (like the Windoze version)?

Right now it is just sitting there "Rendering..."

I have no graphical display, just text, as I am telnetting to it from my Win
machine. Not enough room in here for two monitors, two keyboards, and two
mice. Really.

Also, the reason I did it this way is so my wife or I could use the Win
machine while I have something rendering on the Linux machine. Is there a
way to let it render in the background, even if I am not currently
telnetted/logged into the machine?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Paul Vanukoff
van### [at] primenetcom


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 4 Jan 2000 20:21:07
Message: <38729BE3.38D6BE98@tapestry.tucson.az.us>
Try +V in the command line.

Paul Vanukoff wrote:

> I just installed POV-Ray on my linux box and it is rendering a scene right
> now. I have a question. Is there a way to get it to display the approximate
> percentage complete (like the Windoze version)?
>
> Right now it is just sitting there "Rendering..."
>
> I have no graphical display, just text, as I am telnetting to it from my Win
> machine. Not enough room in here for two monitors, two keyboards, and two
> mice. Really.
>
> Also, the reason I did it this way is so my wife or I could use the Win
> machine while I have something rendering on the Linux machine. Is there a
> way to let it render in the background, even if I am not currently
> telnetted/logged into the machine?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> --
> Paul Vanukoff
> van### [at] primenetcom


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From: Steve Martin
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 4 Jan 2000 21:35:34
Message: <3872ADC9.FD147AE0@usit.net>
> Also, the reason I did it this way is so my wife or I could use the Win
> machine while I have something rendering on the Linux machine. Is there a
> way to let it render in the background, even if I am not currently
> telnetted/logged into the machine?

This sounds like a typical use of the "detached" process. To get the
render to proceed "in the background" (actually, as a separate
process detached from the controlling terminal), precede your
POV-Ray invocation with the word "nohup" and follow it with
" > /dev/null &", as in the following example:

nohup s-povray +Iinput.pov > /dev/null &

The "nohup" tells Linux to continue the process even after
the original login process terminates (i.e. after you log
off), the "> /dev/null" redirects standard-output to a
null file so it doesn't clutter up the terminal, and the
trailing "&" (ampersand) causes the process to detach from
the terminal from which you start it, running as a
separate process. Of course, this will remove the "progress
indication" you were wanting, as it does not output to the
terminal during this time, but it will run the render in
the background.

Hope this helps.


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From: Paul Vanukoff
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 4 Jan 2000 22:28:07
Message: <3872ba47@news.povray.org>
I did, no progress indication. Not *too* big a deal really, just would be
nice to see.

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Paul Vanukoff
van### [at] primenetcom


Kevin Wampler wrote in message <38729BE3.38D6BE98@tapestry.tucson.az.us>...
>Try +V in the command line.


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From: Paul Vanukoff
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 4 Jan 2000 22:34:27
Message: <3872bbc3@news.povray.org>
Cool .. thanks. Works like a charm!

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Paul Vanukoff
van### [at] primenetcom


Steve Martin wrote in message <3872ADC9.FD147AE0@usit.net>...

>This sounds like a typical use of the "detached" process. To get the
>render to proceed "in the background" (actually, as a separate
>process detached from the controlling terminal), precede your
>POV-Ray invocation with the word "nohup" and follow it with
>" > /dev/null &", as in the following example:
>
>nohup s-povray +Iinput.pov > /dev/null &
>
>The "nohup" tells Linux to continue the process even after
>the original login process terminates (i.e. after you log
>off), the "> /dev/null" redirects standard-output to a
>null file so it doesn't clutter up the terminal, and the
>trailing "&" (ampersand) causes the process to detach from
>the terminal from which you start it, running as a
>separate process. Of course, this will remove the "progress
>indication" you were wanting, as it does not output to the
>terminal during this time, but it will run the render in
>the background.
>
>Hope this helps.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 4 Jan 2000 23:29:30
Message: <3872C815.A0D8ADE0@tapestry.tucson.az.us>
Very odd, it works on my computer, I wonder what's going wrong.  Sorry I can't
be of more help.

Paul Vanukoff wrote:

> I did, no progress indication. Not *too* big a deal really, just would be
> nice to see.
>
> --
> Paul Vanukoff
> van### [at] primenetcom
>
> Kevin Wampler wrote in message <38729BE3.38D6BE98@tapestry.tucson.az.us>...
> >Try +V in the command line.


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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 5 Jan 2000 05:18:19
Message: <38731a6b@news.povray.org>
Paul Vanukoff <van### [at] primenetcom> wrote:
: I did, no progress indication. Not *too* big a deal really, just would be
: nice to see.

: Kevin Wampler wrote in message <38729BE3.38D6BE98@tapestry.tucson.az.us>...
:>Try +V in the command line.


  +v works in both Linux and Solaris here. It should work there too.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Paul Vanukoff
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 5 Jan 2000 07:29:00
Message: <3873390c@news.povray.org>
Hmm ... I'll try it again when I get home. At work right now. Thanks.

--
Paul Vanukoff
van### [at] primenetcom


Nieminen Juha wrote in message <38731a6b@news.povray.org>...
>Paul Vanukoff <van### [at] primenetcom> wrote:
>: I did, no progress indication. Not *too* big a deal really, just would be
>: nice to see.
>
>: Kevin Wampler wrote in message
<38729BE3.38D6BE98@tapestry.tucson.az.us>...
>:>Try +V in the command line.
>
>
>  +v works in both Linux and Solaris here. It should work there too.
>
>--
>main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
>):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 8 Jan 2000 21:58:19
Message: <3877F262.EDBFE97C@bahnhof.se>
Steve Martin wrote:
Another and IMO easier way would be to use the package screen. 

screen -S povray
will create a new 'screen' called 'povray' this is just another shell
basically, in here you start the render, or whatever you want, then
press ctrl+a,d to jump away from that screen. 
this can afterwards be resumed(to watch output and other things) by
using screen -r povray
screen is a rather handy lil' prog that i tend to use a lot (either
local or remote computers)

Well, over and out .

> 
> > Also, the reason I did it this way is so my wife or I could use the Win
> > machine while I have something rendering on the Linux machine. Is there a
> > way to let it render in the background, even if I am not currently
> > telnetted/logged into the machine?
> 
> This sounds like a typical use of the "detached" process. To get the
> render to proceed "in the background" (actually, as a separate
> process detached from the controlling terminal), precede your
> POV-Ray invocation with the word "nohup" and follow it with
> " > /dev/null &", as in the following example:
> 
> nohup s-povray +Iinput.pov > /dev/null &
> 
> The "nohup" tells Linux to continue the process even after
> the original login process terminates (i.e. after you log
> off), the "> /dev/null" redirects standard-output to a
> null file so it doesn't clutter up the terminal, and the
> trailing "&" (ampersand) causes the process to detach from
> the terminal from which you start it, running as a
> separate process. Of course, this will remove the "progress
> indication" you were wanting, as it does not output to the
> terminal during this time, but it will run the render in
> the background.
> 
> Hope this helps.

-- 
//Spider    --  [ spider@bahnhof.se ]-[ http://darkmere.wanfear.com/ ]
And the devil in black dress watches over
    My guardian angel walks away
Life is short and love is always over in the morning
    Black wind come carry me far away
            --"Sisters of Mercy" -- "Temple Of Love"


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From: Steve Martin
Subject: Re: newly installed on linux box ... few questions
Date: 9 Jan 2000 08:14:39
Message: <3878899A.FA7430FB@usit.net>
> Another and IMO easier way would be to use the package screen.
> 
> screen -S povray
> will create a new 'screen' called 'povray' this is just another shell
> basically, in here you start the render, or whatever you want, then
> press ctrl+a,d to jump away from that screen.
> this can afterwards be resumed(to watch output and other things) by
> using screen -r povray
> screen is a rather handy lil' prog that i tend to use a lot (either
> local or remote computers)

Hmmm... this does sound handy, and sounds like something I wish
I had on our SCO machine at work (into which I dial occasionally).
However, I had never heard of that. Just checked, and apparently
this is not something that's a default part of Linux (at least,
not RH6). You know the old saying... "go with what you know best". :)


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