Alex Vandiver wrote:
> 
> Without further ado,
> POV-Ray *ity test, 50 questions

41.  Is that bad?  Can it be treated?

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For those ambiguous questions, the following scoring system is proposed.
Points start with sphere{0,1 pigment{rgb <0,0,0>}}  Scoring is as follows:
     Answer      |     Scoring
------------------------------------
Yes              | Add rgb <0.02,0,0>
Qualified yes/no | Add rgb <0,0.02,0>
No               | Add rgb <0,0,0.02>
[Optional]
For each that have become habit, add a separate normal statement.
Finish statement accorded to those who actually render their final points..

-Alex Vandiver

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Yikes.. only 14/50 here.

Alex Vandiver wrote:

> One thing the POV community is missing is a POV *ity test; in other
> words, what insane things have you done with POV and/or what strange
> tricks do you know?  This has no bearing on your artistic ability, POV
> knowledge, or general worth.. ;>  I care not so much for scores as for
> additions/corrections.  This list does have some overlap with the 'You
> know you have been raytracing too long when..' list, with the difference
> that some people have actually done these things..
> Without further ado,
> POV-Ray *ity test, 50 questions
> SIMPLE STUFF
> ..rendered a 'reflective sphere over checkered plane' scene?
> ..rendered all of the examples?
> ..shamelessly stolen and modified one of the examples?
> ..used POV units less than 0.0001?
>  ..less than 0.000001?
> ..greater than 10000?
>  ..greater than 1000000?
> ..done an entire render at 1pps?
> ..nested more than ten {} blocks?
>  ..more than twenty {} blocks?
> ..upgraded just to speed up your rendering time?
>
> UGLIER STUFF
> ..generated height_fields in POV-Ray, for use in POV-Ray?
> ..hand-coded bezier patches?
>  ..polygons?
>  ..meshes?
>  ..smooth_triangles?
> ..hand-coded using the right-handed system?
>  ..by mistake?
>  ..using some other system (neither right nor left)?
> ..manually specified bounding?
> ..manually specified clipping?
> ..known the difference between bounding and clipping?
> ..done animation?
>  ..wthout the clock variable?
> ..used media?
>  ..and gotten it to work the first time?
> ..used the matrix command?
> ..used julia_fractals?
> ..used poly, cubic, quartic, or quadric?
>
> #PROGRAMMING
> ..used a macro?
> ..written a macro?
> ..written a recursive macro?
>  ..for something other than a fractal?
> ..written a macro only to do mathmatical operations?
> ..used file I/O directives?
>
> PATCHES
> ..used a patched version of POV-Ray?
> ..looked at the POV-Ray source?
> ..changed the source?
>  ..and had it work the way you wanted the first time?
>  ..with beneficial consequences?
> ..released a patch?
>  ..that was included in the Superpatch?
>  ..that was included in the official build?
>
> NEWSGROUPS
> ..been forced to go to/gone to p.o.t?
> ..posted a binary in the wrong group?
> ..been involved in a flame war? (>50 messages in one thread)
>  ..not on p.o-t?
>
> OTHER
> ..used DKB-Trace?
> ..contributed to this list?
> ..contributed to the YKYBRTLW.. list?
>
> Additions?
> -Alex Vandiver

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...so I only earn 25/50, ahem...
can't each IRTC award count for 1 point, huh ? :-))))

Fabien.

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Alex Vandiver wrote:
...
>..used media?
> ..and gotten it to work the first time?
...
>..changed the source?
> ..and had it work the way you wanted the first time?
> ..with beneficial consequences?

I think there should be no "and gotten it work the
first time?" questions.
It should never be too late to score 100% in the future.

>..shamelessly stolen and modified one of the examples?
...
>..posted a binary in the wrong group?
>..been involved in a flame war? (>50 messages in one thread)

I think one shouldn't be forced to do "bad" things to reach 100%

Just my 2 kr...

BTW. my score: 25 out of 50

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Rune

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On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:59:21 -0400, Alex Vandiver <van### [at] tiacnet> wrote:
One thing the POV community is missing is a POV *ity test; in other
words, what insane things have you done with POV and/or what strange
tricks do you know?

score ~22/50

additions:-
Posted an IRTC entry? yes
Regretted it? yes
Corrected a beginner's mistake?  yes 
Politely?  hmm..
Added to a flame war? inadvertantly
Tried to compile POV? yes
Failed to compile POV? yes
Accepted advice to improve an image? yes
Given advice? yes
Been rejected? yes
Abandoned a render after several days? yes
Failed to think of a good entry to YKYBRTLW? yes

YKYBRTLW you contribute to one of these lists :-)
David
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28/50 = 56% = F

Alex Vandiver wrote:

> One thing the POV community is missing is a POV *ity test; in other
> words, what insane things have you done with POV and/or what strange
> tricks do you know?  This has no bearing on your artistic ability, POV
> knowledge, or general worth.. ;>  I care not so much for scores as for
> additions/corrections.  This list does have some overlap with the 'You
> know you have been raytracing too long when..' list, with the difference
> that some people have actually done these things..
> Without further ado,
> POV-Ray *ity test, 50 questions
> SIMPLE STUFF
> ..rendered a 'reflective sphere over checkered plane' scene?
> ..rendered all of the examples?
> ..shamelessly stolen and modified one of the examples?
> ..used POV units less than 0.0001?
>  ..less than 0.000001?
> ..greater than 10000?
>  ..greater than 1000000?
> ..done an entire render at 1pps?
> ..nested more than ten {} blocks?
>  ..more than twenty {} blocks?
> ..upgraded just to speed up your rendering time?
>
> UGLIER STUFF
> ..generated height_fields in POV-Ray, for use in POV-Ray?
> ..hand-coded bezier patches?
>  ..polygons?
>  ..meshes?
>  ..smooth_triangles?
> ..hand-coded using the right-handed system?
>  ..by mistake?
>  ..using some other system (neither right nor left)?
> ..manually specified bounding?
> ..manually specified clipping?
> ..known the difference between bounding and clipping?
> ..done animation?
>  ..wthout the clock variable?
> ..used media?
>  ..and gotten it to work the first time?
> ..used the matrix command?
> ..used julia_fractals?
> ..used poly, cubic, quartic, or quadric?
>
> #PROGRAMMING
> ..used a macro?
> ..written a macro?
> ..written a recursive macro?
>  ..for something other than a fractal?
> ..written a macro only to do mathmatical operations?
> ..used file I/O directives?
>
> PATCHES
> ..used a patched version of POV-Ray?
> ..looked at the POV-Ray source?
> ..changed the source?
>  ..and had it work the way you wanted the first time?
>  ..with beneficial consequences?
> ..released a patch?
>  ..that was included in the Superpatch?
>  ..that was included in the official build?
>
> NEWSGROUPS
> ..been forced to go to/gone to p.o.t?
> ..posted a binary in the wrong group?
> ..been involved in a flame war? (>50 messages in one thread)
>  ..not on p.o-t?
>
> OTHER
> ..used DKB-Trace?
> ..contributed to this list?
> ..contributed to the YKYBRTLW.. list?
>
> Additions?
> -Alex Vandiver

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...Spent dasys making a 2015-line model in spatch and hand-coding to make
the Black Seas Barracude bow hull segment that takes 14.8 Megs when
rendered, and then looked at the stern segment and pressed on against all
odds? I have! (Just wait till it's done, I'll put it in a bottle, it'll be
so cool! And now that I've mentioned it, nobody else better do a
ship-in-a-bottle scene!)

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35... Damn I'm good!

Margus

Alex Vandiver wrote:
> SIMPLE STUFF
> ..rendered a 'reflective sphere over checkered plane' scene?
yes
> ..rendered all of the examples?
yes (?)
> ..shamelessly stolen and modified one of the examples?
of course
> ..used POV units less than 0.0001?
yes
>  ..less than 0.000001?
perhaps as results of functions
> ..greater than 10000?
yes
>  ..greater than 1000000?
yes
> ..done an entire render at 1pps?
yes
> ..nested more than ten {} blocks?
yes
>  ..more than twenty {} blocks?
dunno, lost count
> ..upgraded just to speed up your rendering time?
not just, but mainly

> UGLIER STUFF
> ..generated height_fields in POV-Ray, for use in POV-Ray?
that's quite normal, IMO
> ..hand-coded bezier patches?
no
>  ..polygons?
yes
>  ..meshes?
yes
>  ..smooth_triangles?
no
> ..hand-coded using the right-handed system?
yes
>  ..by mistake?
no
>  ..using some other system (neither right nor left)?
no
> ..manually specified bounding?
yes
> ..manually specified clipping?
yes
> ..known the difference between bounding and clipping?
yes, it's very important, IMO
> ..done animation?
yes
>  ..wthout the clock variable?
noooo
> ..used media?
yes
>  ..and gotten it to work the first time?
sort of
> ..used the matrix command?
yes
> ..used julia_fractals?
once :)
> ..used poly, cubic, quartic, or quadric?
yes
> 
> #PROGRAMMING
> ..used a macro?
yes
> ..written a macro?
yes
> ..written a recursive macro?
yes
>  ..for something other than a fractal?
yes
> ..written a macro only to do mathmatical operations?
yes
> ..used file I/O directives?
yes
> 
> PATCHES
> ..used a patched version of POV-Ray?
oh yes!
> ..looked at the POV-Ray source?
yes
> ..changed the source?
yes; I shouldn't have
>  ..and had it work the way you wanted the first time?
no
>  ..with beneficial consequences?
n/a
> ..released a patch?
no
>  ..that was included in the Superpatch?
n/a
>  ..that was included in the official build?
n/a
> 
> NEWSGROUPS
> ..been forced to go to/gone to p.o.t?
yes
> ..posted a binary in the wrong group?
'fraid so
> ..been involved in a flame war? (>50 messages in one thread)
yes
>  ..not on p.o-t?
yes
> 
> OTHER
> ..used DKB-Trace?
no
> ..contributed to this list?
no
> ..contributed to the YKYBRTLW.. list?
no

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39. That is, without the ones posted below

DO YOU HAVE:
..The Official POV-Ray CD-ROM
..Any IRTC CD-ROMs
..a printed copy of the POV-Ray manual
  ..on glossy paper
..Moray
..A copy of "Raytracing Creations"
  ..Is it signed?
..A Utah teapot
  ..a printout of Mike Miller's picture
..a checkered floor
..a glass sphere
..a Cray
..512 Kb of hand-written source files
  ..1 MB
  ..4 MB
..local copies of all messages on this server
  ..on a separate HDD drive
  ..on CD
..a laser pointer pen
  ..has it helped you in raytracing
..the SuperPatch
..UVPOV
..4 patches
  ..8
  ..16
..POV-Ray
..a life

DO YOU KNOW
..a team member personally
  ..are you one?
..all command line parameters by heart
  ..their .INI equivalents
..the syntax of all POV keywords
  ..plus the SuperPatch ones
  ..plus the UVPOV ones
..the number of You Can Call Me Ray BBS

CAN YOU
..point out where a bug comes from without looking at the source
  ..fix it
..decode and understand
  ..Mark's virus
  ..Warp's signature
  ..Chris Colefax's Lens Effects include file/macro

..convert halo to media
  ..in your head
    ..does it work?
      ..the first time?
..predict how a quartic will look
  ..a poly
    ..any poly
  ..a julia
  ..a bezier_patch
  ..a mesh
..tell the time by looking at your shadow
  ..by looking at the moon
..know a fake gem by its ior
..type faster than you write
  ..than you talk
  ..than you read
..convert any color you see to rgbft
..predict how a color will look like (knowing the background)

HAVE YOU EVER
..logged on You Can Call Me Ray BBS
  ..#povray
..made money by raytracing
  ..by ratracing?
  ..by trayracing?
..spent 6 hours without getting off the chair
  ..12 hours
  ..18 hours
  ..24 hours
  ..36 hours
..scotch-taped the brightness/gamma controls on your monitor
..missed a class while raytracing
  ..missed a workday
  ..a holiday
  ..a wedding
    ..was it your own?
  ..a divorce
    ..was it your own?
..fallen asleep in front of the computer
..had a render time of 1 day
  ..1 week
  ..1 month
  ..1 year
..installed POV nn your school/work network
  ..on multiple computers
    ..you used it actively
      ..during workdays
..gotten in a flame war about rendering software
  ..outside the Internet
    ..in a bar
..bought more RAM to satisfy a specific render
  ..a new HDD

Alex, are these enough? I think not :) Since you beat me to this
(yeah, I wanted to make this test since Stephan started the YKYBRTTLW
frenzy over at c.g.r.r.) I'll just post some of the questions I came.
I will continue tomorrow, it's 3:30 a.m. now, z-z-z-z-z.


Peter Popov
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