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That's the one! I keep meaning to take some carefully posed digital photos
and see if it works...
omniVERSE <inv### [at] aol com> wrote in message
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> http://www.photomodeler.com/Lite
>
> This is a freeware version of PhotoModeler that can be used to plot out
> points onto multiple photos or drawings and create 3D models. Might be
what
> you were thinking of.
> I got the demo of Canoma to check it out, not sure how to use it but it
> seems to lack abitlity to plot each point out manually and instead has
> predefined shapes you place into the picture. Maybe there's another way
but
> I didn't see any other.
>
> Bob
>
> Bill DeWitt <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
> news:381aa71d@news.povray.org...
> >
> > omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> > news:381a97c6@news.povray.org...
> > > Anyone know about Canoma?
http://www.metacreations.com/products/canoma/
> > > I just happened across it while net surfing.
> >
> > I've seen somehting like it before but it had a free version your
> could
> > keep. I lost it with everything else but I will try to find it again.
> Maybe
> > Ken has a link to it? If I could remember the name....
> >
> >
>
>
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omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> http://www.photomodeler.com/Lite
>
> This is a freeware version of PhotoModeler that can be used to plot out
> points onto multiple photos or drawings and create 3D models. Might be
what
> you were thinking of.
I mean to say that I believe that thisis the way that some recent
commercials have done their effect. I forget the advertiser (which is a
comment on today's advertizing methods) but the effect was that two young
lovers meet in a plaze or something and time stands still. The camera
rotates around them -while they are still moving- but the rest of the
action, the falling leaves, the people in the background, are all frozen in
time. Quite cool and without detailed photogrammery I cannot think of a way
to do it.
Big problem with this is that I don't believe that it exports to POV, if
I recall, if you want a POV file you have to send them your model and they
will export it for you... then they keep the model... I am downloading it
again and will comment further.
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:381abf2c@news.povray.org...
> > http://www.photomodeler.com/Lite
> >
> > This is a freeware version of PhotoModeler that can be used to plot out
> > points onto multiple photos or drawings and create 3D models. Might be
> what
> > you were thinking of.
>
> I mean to say that I believe that thisis the way that some recent
> commercials have done their effect. I forget the advertiser (which is a
> comment on today's advertizing methods) but the effect was that two young
> lovers meet in a plaze or something and time stands still. The camera
> rotates around them -while they are still moving- but the rest of the
> action, the falling leaves, the people in the background, are all frozen in
> time. Quite cool and without detailed photogrammery I cannot think of a way
> to do it.
That one's done a little differently. They have a series of high-speed
still-frame cameras that get triggered sequentially at a very high rate. This
was also used for the "bullet-time" in the Matrix. By having the cameras placed
in a cemi-circle around the subjects and firing them all at the same time, you
have that one moment recorded from all angles, and can then play them back.
http://www.whatisthematrix.com/cmp/sfx-bullet_frames.html
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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I think we are not talking about the same thing. The Matrix thing was done
with blue screen and a motionless (if I recall properly) background with a
few rendered bullet tracks. The commercial I am talking about froze a moving
background (leaves and birds in the air) then did a 360 around it's
circumference. If there had been cameras in the shot they were hidden quite
well. The trick was to show a 360 sweep around a background all in one
instance. Much different than doing a 360 on one object.
The Matrix things had a completely different look. I think the couple in the
commercial were blue screen and were set into a partially rendered setting,
but I could be wrong... I'll look into it.
Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
news:381B0536.F73A37DB@geocities.com...
> Bill DeWitt wrote:
>
> > omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> > news:381abf2c@news.povray.org...
> > > http://www.photomodeler.com/Lite
> > >
> > > This is a freeware version of PhotoModeler that can be used to plot
out
> > > points onto multiple photos or drawings and create 3D models. Might
be
> > what
> > > you were thinking of.
> >
> > I mean to say that I believe that thisis the way that some recent
> > commercials have done their effect. I forget the advertiser (which is a
> > comment on today's advertizing methods) but the effect was that two
young
> > lovers meet in a plaze or something and time stands still. The camera
> > rotates around them -while they are still moving- but the rest of the
> > action, the falling leaves, the people in the background, are all frozen
in
> > time. Quite cool and without detailed photogrammery I cannot think of a
way
> > to do it.
>
> That one's done a little differently. They have a series of high-speed
> still-frame cameras that get triggered sequentially at a very high rate.
This
> was also used for the "bullet-time" in the Matrix. By having the cameras
placed
> in a cemi-circle around the subjects and firing them all at the same time,
you
> have that one moment recorded from all angles, and can then play them
back.
>
> http://www.whatisthematrix.com/cmp/sfx-bullet_frames.html
>
> --
> "My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
> But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
>
>
>
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Well, at least I know the commercial you're talking about. I would have
said the same thing as Jon A. C., stop-motion camera system type thing. So
what you're saying is the few photographs needed to then make models of all
the stuff, (birds and leaves and water fountain) could have then been
computer generated to forego any existing cameras for the initial picture
creation. Been awhile since I saw it but anythings possible I suppose.
Bob
Bill DeWitt <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
news:381b1817@news.povray.org...
> I think we are not talking about the same thing. The Matrix thing was done
> with blue screen and a motionless (if I recall properly) background with a
> few rendered bullet tracks. The commercial I am talking about froze a
moving
> background (leaves and birds in the air) then did a 360 around it's
> circumference. If there had been cameras in the shot they were hidden
quite
> well. The trick was to show a 360 sweep around a background all in one
> instance. Much different than doing a 360 on one object.
>
> The Matrix things had a completely different look. I think the couple in
the
> commercial were blue screen and were set into a partially rendered
setting,
> but I could be wrong... I'll look into it.
>
>
> Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
> news:381B0536.F73A37DB@geocities.com...
> > Bill DeWitt wrote:
> >
> > > omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> > > news:381abf2c@news.povray.org...
> > > > http://www.photomodeler.com/Lite
> > > >
> > > > This is a freeware version of PhotoModeler that can be used to plot
> out
> > > > points onto multiple photos or drawings and create 3D models. Might
> be
> > > what
> > > > you were thinking of.
> > >
> > > I mean to say that I believe that thisis the way that some recent
> > > commercials have done their effect. I forget the advertiser (which is
a
> > > comment on today's advertizing methods) but the effect was that two
> young
> > > lovers meet in a plaze or something and time stands still. The camera
> > > rotates around them -while they are still moving- but the rest of the
> > > action, the falling leaves, the people in the background, are all
frozen
> in
> > > time. Quite cool and without detailed photogrammery I cannot think of
a
> way
> > > to do it.
> >
> > That one's done a little differently. They have a series of high-speed
> > still-frame cameras that get triggered sequentially at a very high rate.
> This
> > was also used for the "bullet-time" in the Matrix. By having the cameras
> placed
> > in a cemi-circle around the subjects and firing them all at the same
time,
> you
> > have that one moment recorded from all angles, and can then play them
> back.
> >
> > http://www.whatisthematrix.com/cmp/sfx-bullet_frames.html
> >
> > --
> > "My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
> > But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> Well, at least I know the commercial you're talking about.
Really! Can you remember -who- it was an ad for???
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The Gap? They did one to the tune of "Jump, Jive, and Wail." It was
quite well done.
Bill DeWitt wrote:
> omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:381b431b@news.povray.org...
> > Well, at least I know the commercial you're talking about.
>
> Really! Can you remember -who- it was an ad for???
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> I think we are not talking about the same thing. The Matrix thing was done
> with blue screen and a motionless (if I recall properly) background with a
> few rendered bullet tracks. The commercial I am talking about froze a moving
> background (leaves and birds in the air) then did a 360 around it's
> circumference. If there had been cameras in the shot they were hidden quite
> well. The trick was to show a 360 sweep around a background all in one
> instance. Much different than doing a 360 on one object.
>
> The Matrix things had a completely different look. I think the couple in the
> commercial were blue screen and were set into a partially rendered setting,
> but I could be wrong... I'll look into it.
Yes. I think I know that commercial. That was one of the first big ones that
the specific effects company did. Same technology. The Matrix stuff just added
the green screen. The commercial had dove or pigeons, or whatever all over.
I remember reading about it in Millimeter before all the Matrix stuff.
Ahh. Found some of it.
http://www.virtualcamera.com/mm1.html
http://www.virtualcamera.com/
Could this be the commercial you were thinking of?
http://www.virtualcamera.com/images/discoverframe.jpg
http://www.virtualcamera.com/discover.html
> ...Shot in London, in this spot we
> used the 80 lens curved camera to
> create a 360 degree move around
> a couple kissing as the seasons
> changed around them...
>
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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Not at all.
Bob
Bill DeWitt <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
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> Really! Can you remember -who- it was an ad for???
>
>
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Great! This seem to be it!
Clearly my memory of it was a little lacking, but then I haven't seen it
since I tried to figure it out. I have to wait for a few things (still
fixing my computer) before I can even install the QuickTime to view the
samples with...
Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
news:381BDF22.B1D2F086@geocities.com...
> Bill DeWitt wrote:
>
> > I think we are not talking about the same thing. The Matrix thing was
done
> > with blue screen and a motionless (if I recall properly) background with
a
> > few rendered bullet tracks. The commercial I am talking about froze a
moving
> > background (leaves and birds in the air) then did a 360 around it's
> > circumference. If there had been cameras in the shot they were hidden
quite
> > well. The trick was to show a 360 sweep around a background all in one
> > instance. Much different than doing a 360 on one object.
> >
> > The Matrix things had a completely different look. I think the couple in
the
> > commercial were blue screen and were set into a partially rendered
setting,
> > but I could be wrong... I'll look into it.
>
> Yes. I think I know that commercial. That was one of the first big ones
that
> the specific effects company did. Same technology. The Matrix stuff just
added
> the green screen. The commercial had dove or pigeons, or whatever all
over.
>
> I remember reading about it in Millimeter before all the Matrix stuff.
>
> Ahh. Found some of it.
>
> http://www.virtualcamera.com/mm1.html
>
> http://www.virtualcamera.com/
>
>
> Could this be the commercial you were thinking of?
>
> http://www.virtualcamera.com/images/discoverframe.jpg
>
> http://www.virtualcamera.com/discover.html
>
> > ...Shot in London, in this spot we
> > used the 80 lens curved camera to
> > create a 360 degree move around
> > a couple kissing as the seasons
> > changed around them...
> >
> --
> "My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
> But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
>
>
>
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