Well, at least I know the commercial you're talking about.  I would have
said the same thing as Jon A. C., stop-motion camera system type thing.  So
what you're saying is the few photographs needed to then make models of all
the stuff, (birds and leaves and water fountain) could have then been
computer generated to forego any existing cameras for the initial picture
creation.  Been awhile since I saw it but anythings possible I suppose.

Bob

Bill DeWitt <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
news:381b1817@news.povray.org...
> I think we are not talking about the same thing. The Matrix thing was done
> with blue screen and a motionless (if I recall properly) background with a
> few rendered bullet tracks. The commercial I am talking about froze a
moving
> background (leaves and birds in the air) then did a 360 around it's
> circumference. If there had been cameras in the shot they were hidden
quite
> well. The trick was to show a 360 sweep around a background all in one
> instance. Much different than doing a 360 on one object.
>
> The Matrix things had a completely different look. I think the couple in
the
> commercial were blue screen and were set into a partially rendered
setting,
> but I could be wrong... I'll look into it.
>
>
> Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
> news:381B0536.F73A37DB@geocities.com...
> > Bill DeWitt wrote:
> >
> > > omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> > > news:381abf2c@news.povray.org...
> > > > http://www.photomodeler.com/Lite
> > > >
> > > > This is a freeware version of PhotoModeler that can be used to plot
> out
> > > > points onto multiple photos or drawings and create 3D models.  Might
> be
> > > what
> > > > you were thinking of.
> > >
> > >     I mean to say that I believe that thisis the way that some recent
> > > commercials have done their effect. I forget the advertiser (which is
a
> > > comment on today's advertizing methods) but the effect was that two
> young
> > > lovers meet in a plaze or something and time stands still. The camera
> > > rotates around them -while they are still moving- but the rest of the
> > > action, the falling leaves, the people in the background, are all
frozen
> in
> > > time. Quite cool and without detailed photogrammery I cannot think of
a
> way
> > > to do it.
> >
> > That one's done a little differently. They have a series of high-speed
> > still-frame cameras that get triggered sequentially at a very high rate.
> This
> > was also used for the "bullet-time" in the Matrix. By having the cameras
> placed
> > in a cemi-circle around the subjects and firing them all at the same
time,
> you
> > have that one moment recorded from all angles, and can then play them
> back.
> >
> > http://www.whatisthematrix.com/cmp/sfx-bullet_frames.html
> >
> > --
> > "My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
> > But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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