The message?  You'll have to ask the author Gautam Lad if you can use his
message.

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Well, even though you're teasing me, I'd say about $15.  Please keep in mind
I don't know the original value.  If it were a $50 book new and it's 8 years
old lets say, and good condition, probably give $20.  Not worth it to give
up at that price eh? Ha ha.

Bob

Ron Parker <par### [at] fwicom> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 03:55:14 -0500, Bob Hughes wrote:
> >  Also wanted to find a couple other early things like the Walnut Creek
CD
> >and whatever books relating to POV.
>
> How much would you pay for a gently used copy of Ray Tracing Creations? :)
> Not that I'd sell mine, of course...

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These news messages are only being kept from other news servers (namely
Usenet) from what I understand of it.  Anything I ever write here I consider
public domain besides though, if I were posting copyrightable material it
wouldn't go here anyhow.  I don't really consider any of my webpages truly
copyrightable either (policeable rather) which is why anything I upload is
typically bad Jpegs or what ever else I mess around with.

Bob

Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote in message
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> The message?  You'll have to ask the author Gautam Lad if you can use his
> message.
>
>

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If you look at the header of the message you posted, you will find (among
other things) the following line:

X-Copyright: This copyrighted article comes from a private news server and
may NOT be redistributed.

:-)

Also, the URL Ron gave: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
describes why newsgroup articles are *not* public domain, unless explicitely
made so by the author.

Johannes.


Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:37f4ca5a@news.povray.org...
> These news messages are only being kept from other news servers (namely
> Usenet) from what I understand of it.  Anything I ever write here I
consider
> public domain besides though, if I were posting copyrightable material it
> wouldn't go here anyhow.  I don't really consider any of my webpages truly
> copyrightable either (policeable rather) which is why anything I upload is
> typically bad Jpegs or what ever else I mess around with.
>
> Bob
>
> Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote in message
> news:37f42eee@news.povray.org...
> > The message?  You'll have to ask the author Gautam Lad if you can use
his
> > message.
> >
> >
>
>

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Ah, thanks for the enlightenment Johannes.  I knew of the "copyrighted"
portion of message properties.  I was basing my comments on a statement made
by either Alan Kong or NewsAdmin about these messages not being distributed
out to Usenet and thought I remembered that being the only real limitation.
Of course my own opinion was just that, an opinion.
I have a quote from a message at a newsgroup (c.g.r.r.?) of David K. Buck on
one of my web pages, don't recall the details of when and where I got it.
Thanks for the url, it's informative reading.
Wonder if Ken has seen the web page on URL linking yet.  You know how he
likes direct addresses to pages and files  ; )

Bob

Johannes Hubert <jhu### [at] algonetse> wrote in message
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> If you look at the header of the message you posted, you will find (among
> other things) the following line:
>
> X-Copyright: This copyrighted article comes from a private news server and
> may NOT be redistributed.
>
> :-)
>
> Also, the URL Ron gave: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
> describes why newsgroup articles are *not* public domain, unless
explicitely
> made so by the author.
>
> Johannes.
>
>
> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:37f4ca5a@news.povray.org...
> > These news messages are only being kept from other news servers (namely
> > Usenet) from what I understand of it.  Anything I ever write here I
> consider
> > public domain besides though, if I were posting copyrightable material
it
> > wouldn't go here anyhow.  I don't really consider any of my webpages
truly
> > copyrightable either (policeable rather) which is why anything I upload
is
> > typically bad Jpegs or what ever else I mess around with.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote in message
> > news:37f42eee@news.povray.org...
> > > The message?  You'll have to ask the author Gautam Lad if you can use
> his
> > > message.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:13 +0200, Remco de Korte
<rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote:

[snip]
>Sueing assumes that the publisher is not all together bona fide. Now this is not
>an elegant thing, but I don't really think the publisher here intentionally
>broke some copyright-law. Perhaps a good first step would be to simply write a
>(e-)letter, stating that they have used one (or more) of _your_ products and how
>this could happen and then see how they react. It's good to not let this go
>unnoticed. If the publisher has had a chance to defend his actions you can
>decide what happens next.
>Of course, chances are they'll ignore you, in which case sueing in court might
>not really be an option but nailing them to a virtual wall on the internet (by
>all sorts of ways) is! I think they're are a lot of people who'll support you
>then.
>
I am not a lawyer, etc. etc. etc. but agree this sounds like the best
course of action. Sadly, the only case I'm aware of (due to other
interests) where a commercial company has used graphics from a web
site (where copyright information is displayed) didn't go to well -
the initial e-mail was responded to by a rather sharp and borderline
threatening response. Don't let a stiff reply get you down!


Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/

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