>  If this millenium started at year 1000 and ends at year 1999, that would
>mean that this millenium has 1000 years but the previous millenium had only
>999 years (since it started from year 1, not year 0).

But it DOES start at 1, that's the point of this.

>1000 and ends at year 1999

That's incorrect, that means it has 999 years.

That's why the current millennium ends at the END of the year 2000 and the
new millennium starts at the start of the year 2001.

If you don't get it, explain to me this, if the first year is 1, which is
what you're suggesting, when you HIT the year 10, have you experience 10
years?  I think not... you must complete year 10 before you have had 10 full
years.

Get it?

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>Get it?

I can draw a diagram if you want...  It might explain it better.

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Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
:>1000 and ends at year 1999

: That's incorrect, that means it has 999 years.

  Nope.
  If it starts at year 1000, then the year 1000 is the first year, year 1001
is the second year, 1002 is the third year, ..., year 1999 is the 1000th year.
  If we count from the beginning of year 1000 to the end of year 1999 that's
full 1000 years.
  However, if we count from the beginning of year 1 to the end of year 999,
that's 999 years.
  Since a millenium is by definition 1000 years and not 999, that means that
the first millenium is from the beginning of year 1 to the end of year 1000;
the second millenium is from the beginning of year 1001 to the end of year
2000; the third millenium is from the beginning of year 2001 to the end of
year 3000. And so on.

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Nieminen Mika wrote in message <37b40be5@news.povray.org>...
>Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
>:>1000 and ends at year 1999
>
>: That's incorrect, that means it has 999 years.
>
>  Nope.

Get your quotes correct please, I was quoting you!!!  LOL

In the last message you posted (which I'm now replying to) you're in total
agreence with what I've been saying!  But in the one before that you said
that it was the oppossite!  (I think that's what you meant anyway, sorry if
I'm wrong in my interpretation of what you wrote)

In any case, the points I was making were:

1. There is no year 0, the first year was year 1.
2. The new millennium STARTS IN THE YEAR ***2001***!!!  ***NOT 2000***!!!

Right?  That's what you were saying wasn't it Nieminen?  (I just got
confused about what you meant I think, sorry about that, if you mean
something else please tell me)

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Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote in message
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> No, all I was saying is that in our current date system, according to the
> date it will start on 01/01/2001 not 01/01/2000 (because there was no year
> 0).
>

    I don't really think there are many who don't get this concept... there
are some who argue over whether it is important. The big party is going to
be at the end of 1999. That will certainly be 1000 years (or a reasonable
facilities thereof) since the last big party. That one was certainly on the
wrong date (a year early, but talk to -them- about that) but ours will be
reasonably correct (ie: one millennium later).

    Of course on 12/31/200 a few disgruntled die-hards (who didn't go to
the -big- party) will put on pointed hats, hoist a glass of imported Ginger
Beer and mutter about the failure of the school system to teach the basics
of mathematics... 8-)

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I'll be spending both 2000 and 2001 parties with my friends I think,
regardless of which one is *seen* as the millennium party.

I just find it disappointing that some people don't get what I mean and
actually think the new millennium starts at the start of the year 2000, and
not the real start which is at the start of 2001.

Oh well, I guess the human race will just have to go on being intoxicated by
the media.  The name "Millennium Bug" doesn't help the situation either ;-)

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Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
: 1. There is no year 0, the first year was year 1.
: 2. The new millennium STARTS IN THE YEAR ***2001***!!!  ***NOT 2000***!!!

: Right?  That's what you were saying wasn't it Nieminen?

  Yes.
  But I have also said that it doesn't matter: All the fun will happen in
1/1/2000 :)

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Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
: I'll be spending both 2000 and 2001 parties with my friends I think,
: regardless of which one is *seen* as the millennium party.

  I don't want to be in any place where there are lots of people when
the year changes. Something _might_ go wrong and panic will follow...

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>  Yes.
>  But I have also said that it doesn't matter: All the fun will happen in
>1/1/2000 :)

Extremely good point :)

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Nieminen Mika wrote in message <37b41a89@news.povray.org>...
>Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
>: I'll be spending both 2000 and 2001 parties with my friends I think,
>: regardless of which one is *seen* as the millennium party.
>
>  I don't want to be in any place where there are lots of people when
>the year changes. Something _might_ go wrong and panic will follow...

That shouldn't be a problem, I don't have many friends ;)

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