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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 11 Aug 1999 18:47:08
Message: <37B1EED0.B9BA6EBB@panama.phoenix.net>
Since I came here people were nice to me. Except of course my first post,
which was "   >>>!!!Please read this!!!<<<   ", posted 5/24/98 in
.animations... I was inquiring into getting some help animating a robot I
had made, and guess who answered first?

"I think you should post this in povray.general or
povray.binaries.animations
because we are really only here for the Internet Movie Project and the
themes have already been decided for it.

--
Lance Birch
Remove the smiley to e-mail.
http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/ambient/lance"

He was quickly corrected and apologized and all went on OK. I had another
skirmish with him later on, but all was quickly settled. I have actually had
several 'battles' here, but the people are wonderful, intelligent people and
know how to end disputes quickly and in a civilized manner. I like that. =)

In my time here, I have seen many leaders of the pack pop out. One who
caught my attention early on is our good friend Mr. Tyler, with his humor,
and excelent POVing skills. Then I started noticing Nieminen, Rune, Ron,
Peter, Greg, Marc, and a lot of other people. One person whom I disliked
from the start is our friend Giwer, whose posts have something I never
liked. Perhaps a slight air of arrogance? Perhaps that they were a bit
excessive in the beginning? In any case, I have grown used to his postings,
which have begun to dwindle a bit and have just gotten on with it, and
enjoyed this excellent resource of information and idea discussion.

I think that the stages I have seen have been where the group as a whole
shifts importance from one subgroup to another. For example, a while ago,
the main characters were the artists, then it shifted towards the
intellectuals, and now I see the programmers/patchers pretty much in the
center of attention. This shift does not affect the previous importance of
the others, who become the respected 'elders', so to speak, whose words are
held in high regard.

--
Anthony L. Bennett
http://welcome.to/TonyB

Non nova, sed nove.


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 11 Aug 1999 23:23:19
Message: <37b23e27@news.povray.org>
>"I think you should post this in povray.general or
>povray.binaries.animations
>because we are really only here for the Internet Movie Project and the
>themes have already been decided for it.
>
>--
>Lance Birch
>Remove the smiley to e-mail.
>http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/ambient/lance"
>
>He was quickly corrected and apologized and all went on OK. I had another
>skirmish with him later on, but all was quickly settled. I have actually
had
>several 'battles' here, but the people are wonderful, intelligent people
and
>know how to end disputes quickly and in a civilized manner. I like that. =)


but I've learnt my lesson now.  :)  No hard feelings?  (I will openly admit
I'm very arrogant at times by the way, I'm just too young and naive I guess)

In my little conclusionary statement to this whole thing (that seems to
really be dragging out now):

1.  The new millennium *technically* starts on 01/01/2001 ;-)  I just had to
say it!  hehe!
2.  Well it's nice to see that everyone's calmed down and got back to work.
:)
3.  Thanks to everyone here that has helped me out.
4.  Thanks to the POV-Team for providing such a wonderful program and
server!!!
5.  I hope that in my time here so far I've been of some help to all you
wonderful people!

"Keep on tracing!"

--
Lance.


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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 05:48:16
Message: <37B297E2.A04CFEE2@xs4all.nl>
Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> Well, just as a side tangent here (since everyone has been doing so in the
> post mentioned), I didn't read the original post, just some of the last few.
> 

Okay, I hesitated to do this but: what's this about. To which thread/message is
this referring? I seem to have missed a lot of excitement. Am I the only one not
getting this?

Remco


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 05:49:54
Message: <37b298c2@news.povray.org>
The message titled "BLESS YOU!"

There was a big flame war but now the flames have died down.

--
Lance.


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Remco de Korte wrote in message <37B297E2.A04CFEE2@xs4all.nl>...
>Lance Birch wrote:
>>
>> Well, just as a side tangent here (since everyone has been doing so in
the
>> post mentioned), I didn't read the original post, just some of the last
few.
>>
>
>Okay, I hesitated to do this but: what's this about. To which
thread/message is
>this referring? I seem to have missed a lot of excitement. Am I the only
one not
>getting this?
>
>Remco
>


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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 10:57:34
Message: <37B2B468.7C4D4656@xs4all.nl>
Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> The message titled "BLESS YOU!"
> 
> There was a big flame war but now the flames have died down.
> 
> --
> Lance.
> 

I figured as much, but where was the flame war? Which thread? 

I feel so left out 8-{

;-)

Remco


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 11:39:55
Message: <37b2eacb@news.povray.org>
In the "BLESS YOU!" thread... most of the action is a fair few levels deep.

--
Lance.


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Remco de Korte wrote in message <37B2B468.7C4D4656@xs4all.nl>...
>Lance Birch wrote:
>>
>> The message titled "BLESS YOU!"
>>
>> There was a big flame war but now the flames have died down.
>>
>> --
>> Lance.
>>
>
>I figured as much, but where was the flame war? Which thread?
>
>I feel so left out 8-{
>
>;-)
>
>Remco
>
>


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 11:50:14
Message: <37B2ED00.1AF60563@pacbell.net>
Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> Lance Birch wrote:
> >
> > Well, just as a side tangent here (since everyone has been doing so in the
> > post mentioned), I didn't read the original post, just some of the last few.
> >
> 
> Okay, I hesitated to do this but: what's this about. To which thread/message is
> this referring? I seem to have missed a lot of excitement. Am I the only one not
> getting this?
> 
> Remco

The "BLESS YOU" thread started originaly as the " #read #fiasco " thread then
changed names once the poster found the info needed and was thanking those
that helped. All hell broke loose shortly there after.

-- 
Ken Tyler

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 11:52:26
Message: <37b2edba@news.povray.org>
Ah OK, gotcha :)

--
Lance.


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Ken wrote in message <37B2ED00.1AF60563@pacbell.net>...
>
>
>Remco de Korte wrote:
>>
>> Lance Birch wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, just as a side tangent here (since everyone has been doing so in
the
>> > post mentioned), I didn't read the original post, just some of the last
few.
>> >
>>
>> Okay, I hesitated to do this but: what's this about. To which
thread/message is
>> this referring? I seem to have missed a lot of excitement. Am I the only
one not
>> getting this?
>>
>> Remco
>
>The "BLESS YOU" thread started originaly as the " #read #fiasco " thread
then
>changed names once the poster found the info needed and was thanking those
>that helped. All hell broke loose shortly there after.
>
>--
>Ken Tyler
>
>See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
>http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 16:37:09
Message: <37B3304E.D1F8471@xs4all.nl>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Remco de Korte wrote:
> >
> > Lance Birch wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, just as a side tangent here (since everyone has been doing so in the
> > > post mentioned), I didn't read the original post, just some of the last few.
> > >
> >
> > Okay, I hesitated to do this but: what's this about. To which thread/message is
> > this referring? I seem to have missed a lot of excitement. Am I the only one not
> > getting this?
> >
> > Remco
> 
> The "BLESS YOU" thread started originaly as the " #read #fiasco " thread then
> changed names once the poster found the info needed and was thanking those
> that helped. All hell broke loose shortly there after.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html

Thank you! I had an entertaining half hour over this thread once I found it. I
thought it ran for a long time but it seems to have taken only about a day to
fire things up. Perhaps it was the eclipse (for us Europee-ers).
I'm glad I didn't get caught up in that thing, but to put things in perspective:
a couple of months ago the VCards started to irritate me too. Especially because
in the binaries groups I tend to look for the binaries first, just finding
another VCard. Since most messages with a VCard were from M.G. I contacted him
through (private) e-mail kindly asking him if he would consider leaving the
VCards out. I never got a reply. So, as he suggested, I
unsystematically/semi-conciously filtered his messages, just skipping most of
them. Did anyone notice? Did I bother anyone? Did I miss anything? Well, yes, of
course: I missed a juicy flamewar. 

Most of the time these type of things are not worth the bother, but they can be
"fun". Perhaps blowing of steam in one of these groups will prevent someone from
beating up the kids for once ;-)

Hm ,what I was trying to say: the discussion was partly about "netiquette". Is a
flameware netiquette? If so...(fill in your own conclusion)

Regards and have fun (and peace of course),

Remco

Are we a bunch of old farts that don't smell so good anymore?


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Visions of "BLESS YOU!"
Date: 12 Aug 1999 17:00:44
Message: <37B2F573.3BF80770@ndirect.co.uk>
Who's Dick Clark?

Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:40:22 -0700, Josh English wrote:
> >I personally think that y2k is a joke, but the 20th century ends on 12/21/1999
> >and the 21st begins on 1/1/00
> 
> What do you call the ten days in between? :)
> 
> >The only advantage to thinking that the century starts on 1/1/01 is that the
> >rest of us can have a second big party.
> 
> I was shopping recently and saw all kinds of otherwise-cheap merchandise
> emblazoned with the (trademarked) "Mark of the Millennium : 01/01/00"
> seal and marked up by astronomical amounts.  I would have thought it would
> be much cooler to say the mark of the millennium is 01/01/01, but I guess
> they didn't think that was quite as marketable.  Maybe I can trademark the
> "Mark of the Real Millennium" seal and make a fortune off of geeks.
> 
> Okay, I'm sorry I started this again.  I submit myself for whatever
> punishment seems suitable, except being forced to watch Dick Clark announce
> the beginning of the new Millennium.

-- 
Cheers
Steve

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