Well, if you want my expert opinion <g>, this group is too large and dynamic for
any definitive phases to evolve.
Such conflicts have flamed up in the past and are likely to occur in the future.
And yet this is one of the most productive and helpful groups I've seen. So
where does that leave us?
But that's enough sociological rambling from me.

Margus

Vahur Krouverk wrote:
> 
> Lance Birch wrote:
> >[Sound words of wisdom snipped]
> 
> I'd like to add something to this OT thread...
> 
> Well, it has to come, sooner or later. I once participated in teamwork
> seminar where I learned, that every group has 4 phases of life:
> 1. Initial phase. Everyone in group is new, they are trying to
> acommodate and learn each other. (i.e. Creation of this server for
> newsgroups ca. 2 years ago)
> 2. "Arise of authorities" phase. In this phase people are familiar with
> each other and some more active people will start to dominate and take
> leadership. (In this server to name a few: .... (everyone can fill this
> by itself))
> 3. Conflict phase. This is avoidable unfortunately, question is, how
> serious it will be and how long it will last. Seems, like this community
> here is entered to this phase. In this phase some of people will try to
> change formed hierarchy, other are gathered enough familiarity with each
> other and will not be as "politically correct" as in first phases, when
> there is something to say.
> 4. Phase of productivity. Everyone is settled down and group will
> concentrate to its objectivity. Hopefully this phase will come and
> rather soon.
> 
> Well, it has been long time since I learned it (5-6 years) and typed
> with my bad english, so please forgive, if there is something wrong.
> Additionally, if someone feels somehow offended by this posting, then I
> apologise sincerely.
> 
> P.S. Perhaps this theory is just plain wrong and postings are carried
> with "end-of-world", "solar eclipse" or "millenium hysteria" feelings
> ;-)

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What kind of funny things are you trying to do on New Years Day? : )

I personally think that y2k is a joke, but the 20th century ends on 12/21/1999
and the 21st begins on 1/1/00

It makes sense. When did the 90's begin? 1/1/90. We like Zeros for some reason,
and they're significant

The only advantage to thinking that the century starts on 1/1/01 is that the
rest of us can have a second big party.

Joshua
eng### [at] spiritonecom
---------------------------
"It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to butn off."

Nieminen Mika wrote:

> Bill DeWitt <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> :     Bill "The only man in the world who knows that the 20th century ends
> : 12/31/2000 but still acknowledges that on 12/31/1999 it will be1000 years
> : since the last millennium party and 1000 years till the next" DeWitt
>
>   It really doesn't matter if the millenium changes at 1/1/2000 or 1/1/2001.
> The important thing is that all the funny things will happen in
> 1/1/2000...
>
> --
> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:40:22 -0700, Josh English wrote:
>I personally think that y2k is a joke, but the 20th century ends on 12/21/1999
>and the 21st begins on 1/1/00

What do you call the ten days in between? :)

>The only advantage to thinking that the century starts on 1/1/01 is that the
>rest of us can have a second big party.

I was shopping recently and saw all kinds of otherwise-cheap merchandise 
emblazoned with the (trademarked) "Mark of the Millennium : 01/01/00"
seal and marked up by astronomical amounts.  I would have thought it would 
be much cooler to say the mark of the millennium is 01/01/01, but I guess 
they didn't think that was quite as marketable.  Maybe I can trademark the
"Mark of the Real Millennium" seal and make a fortune off of geeks.

Okay, I'm sorry I started this again.  I submit myself for whatever
punishment seems suitable, except being forced to watch Dick Clark announce
the beginning of the new Millennium.

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I call it a typo. We don't need to skip another ten days

Ron Parker wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:40:22 -0700, Josh English wrote:
> >I personally think that y2k is a joke, but the 20th century ends on 12/21/1999
> >and the 21st begins on 1/1/00
>
> What do you call the ten days in between? :)
>
> >The only advantage to thinking that the century starts on 1/1/01 is that the
> >rest of us can have a second big party.
>
> I was shopping recently and saw all kinds of otherwise-cheap merchandise
> emblazoned with the (trademarked) "Mark of the Millennium : 01/01/00"
> seal and marked up by astronomical amounts.  I would have thought it would
> be much cooler to say the mark of the millennium is 01/01/01, but I guess
> they didn't think that was quite as marketable.  Maybe I can trademark the
> "Mark of the Real Millennium" seal and make a fortune off of geeks.
>
> Okay, I'm sorry I started this again.  I submit myself for whatever
> punishment seems suitable, except being forced to watch Dick Clark announce
> the beginning of the new Millennium.

--
Joshua English
eng### [at] spiritonecom
"It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off."

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Josh English <eng### [at] spiritonecom> wrote in message
news:37B1E391.7374DB43@spiritone.com...
> I call it a typo. We don't need to skip another ten days
>


    But...but... isn't this a Leap Millennium?

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Since I came here people were nice to me. Except of course my first post,
which was "   >>>!!!Please read this!!!<<<   ", posted 5/24/98 in
.animations... I was inquiring into getting some help animating a robot I
had made, and guess who answered first?

"I think you should post this in povray.general or
povray.binaries.animations
because we are really only here for the Internet Movie Project and the
themes have already been decided for it.

--
Lance Birch
Remove the smiley to e-mail.
http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/ambient/lance"

He was quickly corrected and apologized and all went on OK. I had another
skirmish with him later on, but all was quickly settled. I have actually had
several 'battles' here, but the people are wonderful, intelligent people and
know how to end disputes quickly and in a civilized manner. I like that. =)

In my time here, I have seen many leaders of the pack pop out. One who
caught my attention early on is our good friend Mr. Tyler, with his humor,
and excelent POVing skills. Then I started noticing Nieminen, Rune, Ron,
Peter, Greg, Marc, and a lot of other people. One person whom I disliked
from the start is our friend Giwer, whose posts have something I never
liked. Perhaps a slight air of arrogance? Perhaps that they were a bit
excessive in the beginning? In any case, I have grown used to his postings,
which have begun to dwindle a bit and have just gotten on with it, and
enjoyed this excellent resource of information and idea discussion.

I think that the stages I have seen have been where the group as a whole
shifts importance from one subgroup to another. For example, a while ago,
the main characters were the artists, then it shifted towards the
intellectuals, and now I see the programmers/patchers pretty much in the
center of attention. This shift does not affect the previous importance of
the others, who become the respected 'elders', so to speak, whose words are
held in high regard.

--
Anthony L. Bennett
http://welcome.to/TonyB

Non nova, sed nove.

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>"I think you should post this in povray.general or
>povray.binaries.animations
>because we are really only here for the Internet Movie Project and the
>themes have already been decided for it.
>
>--
>Lance Birch
>Remove the smiley to e-mail.
>http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/ambient/lance"
>
>He was quickly corrected and apologized and all went on OK. I had another
>skirmish with him later on, but all was quickly settled. I have actually
had
>several 'battles' here, but the people are wonderful, intelligent people
and
>know how to end disputes quickly and in a civilized manner. I like that. =)


but I've learnt my lesson now.  :)  No hard feelings?  (I will openly admit
I'm very arrogant at times by the way, I'm just too young and naive I guess)

In my little conclusionary statement to this whole thing (that seems to
really be dragging out now):

1.  The new millennium *technically* starts on 01/01/2001 ;-)  I just had to
say it!  hehe!
2.  Well it's nice to see that everyone's calmed down and got back to work.
:)
3.  Thanks to everyone here that has helped me out.
4.  Thanks to the POV-Team for providing such a wonderful program and
server!!!
5.  I hope that in my time here so far I've been of some help to all you
wonderful people!

"Keep on tracing!"

--
Lance.


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Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> Well, just as a side tangent here (since everyone has been doing so in the
> post mentioned), I didn't read the original post, just some of the last few.
> 

Okay, I hesitated to do this but: what's this about. To which thread/message is
this referring? I seem to have missed a lot of excitement. Am I the only one not
getting this?

Remco

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The message titled "BLESS YOU!"

There was a big flame war but now the flames have died down.

--
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Remco de Korte wrote in message <37B297E2.A04CFEE2@xs4all.nl>...
>Lance Birch wrote:
>>
>> Well, just as a side tangent here (since everyone has been doing so in
the
>> post mentioned), I didn't read the original post, just some of the last
few.
>>
>
>Okay, I hesitated to do this but: what's this about. To which
thread/message is
>this referring? I seem to have missed a lot of excitement. Am I the only
one not
>getting this?
>
>Remco
>

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Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> The message titled "BLESS YOU!"
> 
> There was a big flame war but now the flames have died down.
> 
> --
> Lance.
> 

I figured as much, but where was the flame war? Which thread? 

I feel so left out 8-{

;-)

Remco

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