Ken wrote:

> Matt Giwer wrote:

> >         I will await the opinion of the newsgroup owners in reguards to
> > the subject of a Netscape utility.

> >         Pardon if I do not take you as authortitative.

> You asked for the source of server access and posting policy. I provided you
> with exactly the information you requested. You may do with that information
> as you and you alone see fit. I do not claim authority over you or anyone
> else nor do I accept that responsibility in any regard. Please don't shoot
> me I am only the messenger.

	I suggest in that place were the servers don't shine there is
the ability to script out the non-compliant poats. If you have a
problem, contect me. Only $US200 per hour, prepay 1000.

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Nieminen Mika wrote:
> 
> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
> : Will you accept me as a friend?
> 
>   Of course.

	Happinees!

	Now did you see the eclipse in France?

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Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
: 	Now did you see the eclipse in France?

  I have never been in France.
  .fi stands for Finland. And I didn't see it. It has been cloudy all the
day :/

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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         I suggest in that place were the servers don't shine there is
> the ability to script out the non-compliant poats. If you have a
> problem, contect me. Only $US200 per hour, prepay 1000.

 "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment
  by men of zeal, well meaning, without understanding."
                        - U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis

                                   and

    "Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself.
     It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime."
                        - Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart

                                   and

    "Govern thy self as you would have others govern you."
                        -  Povray User and All Around Nice Guy Ken Tyler


-- 
Ken Tyler

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On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:38:36 -0700, Ken wrote:
>    "Govern thy self as you would have others govern you."
>                        -  Povray User and All Around Nice Guy Ken Tyler

I hate censorship as much as the next guy, but anyone who says Ken Tyler
is a nice guy should be censored off the face of the earth. :)

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Arrays can have only 5 dimensions.

Margus

"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the exhaustive reply.  I was about to ask what one could do if one
> had TWO variables, but I guess that I can simply turn my two 3D arrays into
> one 6D array.
>

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A cute name for this cute little thread, no?

Margus

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Ron Parker wrote:

> I hate censorship as much as the next guy, but anyone who says Ken Tyler
> is a nice guy should be censored off the face of the earth. :)

  If Ken Tyler wants to call Ken Tyler a nice guy who am I to deny Ken Tyler
that right ?

-- 
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ACTUALLY, it's a [350][34][6] problem.

350 time frames, 34 actors,  3 velocity coordinates, 3 position coordinates.

Already burned out mentally from work and not sure I want to try this one
tonight...

John VanSickle wrote:

> Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> >
> > John VanSickle wrote:
> >
> > > Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I wish that the documentation better explained the syntax for
> > > > #read and #write.
> > > >
> > > > I have created a file of the positions and velocities of a number
> > > > of particles, (34 particles at 350 time periods).  I have pasted
> > > > the first four records from my file.
> > >
> > > Generally, when I have an outside program generate data for POV-Ray,
> > > I have the same program output a standard .INC file, with all of the
> > > #declares, #locals, etc., needed for POV-Ray to parse the file
> > > directly. This requires very little extra effort in the program that
> > > generates the data, and the results parse a lot faster.
> > >
> > > For instance, in my last IRTC entry, the insect parts were made of
> > > bicubic patches, which I converted to meshes using a bit of macro
> > > code.  I got tired of waiting for the macro to parse, so I modified
> > > the macro to write the triangles to a file, in full POV syntax.
> > > From then on I merely #included the generated files, in place of the
> > > original generating code.  Things parsed much more quickly.
>
> > So, like how would you make your inc if you had two variables which
> > were [350][34] each?
> >
> > Would your file generator literally say:
> >
> > #declare position.x[1][1]=1;
> > #declare position.y[1][1]=2;
> > #declare position.z[1][1]=3;
> > #declare position.x[1][2]=4;
> > #declare position.y[1][2]=5;
> > #declare position.z[1][2]=6;
>
> No, the file generator can also dump out the following:
>
> #declare position=array[350][34] = {
>   { <1,2,3>,<4,5,6>, ... }, {... }, ...
> }
>
> The PovRay code would look like this:
>
> // START OF SAMPLE BASIC CODE
>
> #write(MyFile,"#declare position=array[", ROWS, "][", COLUMNS, "] = {\n")
> #local iI=0; #while(iI<ROWS)
>   #if (iI>0) #write(MyFile,",") #end
>   #write(MyFile,"{ ")
>   #local iJ=0; #while(iJ<COLUMNS)
>     #if (iJ>0) #write(MyFile,",") #end
>     #write(MyFile,MyDataArray[iI][iJ])
>   #local iJ=iJ+1; #end
>   #write(MyFile, " }\n" )
> #local iI=iI+1; #end
> #write(MyFile, "}\n" )
>
> // END OF SAMPLE CODE
>
> Your file generating program can print out the #declares, square
> brackets, angle brackets, squiggly brackets, commas, and so forth.
>
> The only difficulty is that if you want to have text data in there as
> well, you have to explicitly print out the quotes with the CHR$()
> function:
>
>   #write(MyFile, "#declare MyString="; CHR$(34); "Stormbringer";
>     CHR$(34); "\n")
>
> which will create a line of text that looks like this:
>
>   #declare MyString="Stormbringer"
>
> You can feed a vector to the #write() directive as well; my example does.
>
>   #write(MyFile,x-y+z*3)
>
> will cause the string
>
>   < 1,-1, 3>
>
> to be written to MyFile.  There is no need to bust up the vectors into
> scalars, only to build them back up later.
>
> Of course, keeping track of the brackets and quotation marks can be
> a bit of a trick. :-)
>
> > I know how to write such a file, but wouldn't this make it a huge INC?
>
> As you can see from my response, it will not be very much larger than
> the file you already plan to use.  It might be twice as big, but that's
> what we have hard drives for.
>
> > Are you sure this is faster than reading with a #while loop the
> > following data:
> >
> >  1,2,3,4,5,6,
>
> Yes, it is much faster.  The file is generated in a form the parser
> already knows how to understand; the other method you discuss goes
> through a #while-#end loop, which takes extra time in any interpreted
> language.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> > To judge from the way Matt gets away with saying "if you don't like my
> > lousy netiquette, filter me", the owners of this server don't seem to
> > care.
> 
>         And IF the owners tell me about it, fine. Then I can choose to
> change or not to participate. That will be MY choice.

Or, to put it another way: "I'll continue to be a jackass, whether
anyone likes it or not, until someone forces me to stop."

> > I wonder if I could get Usenet posters to use this guy's email address
> > as spam bait. After all, if he doesn't want to receive all that spam, he
> > can just filter it.. no skin off his nose. :P
> 
>         Not that is an interesting threat and your email addr as
> instigtator is quite interesting. And your post is forwarded to
> your ISP.

Ooo, scary. Look, I'm SHAKING. Since I won't be sending the spam, you
can't do a damn thing about it, and neither can my ISP.. not unless they
want to get sued.

When all those pornsite spambots and internet travel agents and
gods-know-what-else come knocking on your emailbox - all through no
fault of my own, of course, since after all I don't actually KNOW any
spammers, only where to get their attention - just remember:

>         "Filter" is the power of any user.

and this:

>         Your choice is to filter or not to filter.

Isn't it ironic how you insist on forcing the rest of us to filter your
posts or read them as-is, essentially taking an "opt-out" position, and
yet when you're faced with the same exact prospect, you start tossing
around threats and insults? :P

There is an alternative, of course.. you could simply stop being a
jackass without having to have some kind of admin yell at you, and
convert your stupid VCard to a sig, or omit it. Then there would no
longer be any need for us to use spam as a bludgeoning instrument.

-Xplo

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