"Jon A. Cruz" wrote:

> Obscure sigs have long been a time-honored tradition in the Internet
> community. (now that the video's out, I think I have to change mine).

	Excuse but the old idea of time honored disolved in a pile of
mush about five years ago. The time-honoring types fell to at
best a 10% share of the market as of now. 

	Fact of life. 

	Live with it. 

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Nieminen Mika wrote:

>   Signatures are not part of a contest, but you should get an idea about
> what's the mentality behind obfuscated C (or any other programming language).
>   Signatures usually contain information about the sender, but often they
> also have some interesting things, like quotes, url's, jokes, etc.

>   My signature is intended to be a kind of riddle (in the context of
> obfuscated C). Often someone gets curious about what does it do and then
> tries to compile and run it and gets surprised. Sometimes these people
> write to me asking me how is it done. They feel the joy of discovering
> something unexpected.

	Good enough of a statement. 

	Now tell just how many of the internet users are going to make
the least sense of that statement. No problem, just tell me. 

	80% of the internet users today can't spell internet. 

	Now you are going to tell me about a sig? 

	Get a life. 

	What do Fundies and Hassidim and university internet types have
in common? The 18th century.

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Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
: 	What in the hell is your excuse for not filtering me instead of
: being rude to me which started all this? 

  I think that people have the right to defend themselves when someone
calls them nazi and communist.
  The only rude thing I have called you is "childish". That is rude, I
admit it and apologize if I offended you serioulsy. I personally act
childisly some times too (perhaps right now).
  However, I think that "nazi", "hitler" and "communist" are quite more rude
than "childish".
  Anyways, it's funny. What I'm saying is: "take into account all the
people, also those who are using old news readers". What you are saying
is: "use a better newsreader and shut up". May I ask who is the dictator
here?

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Nieminen Mika wrote:

> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:

> :       Variety is something we cherish in the modern world. Only
> : Communists and Nazis said everyone had to be the same.

>   That's exactly the reason why you should take into account those who
> are using newsreaders which are not able to handle every kind of attachments.
> Not everyone can or want to use the same newsreader as you do. If you don't
> consider other people who are using other newsreader, you are very impolite.

	The post is that there are exactly three who who object. The
rest appear to be polite or have the technical ablility which you
lack to implement a filter. 

	FILTER ME PLEASE! 

	I do not want you to read what bothers you. 

	If you are having a problem with the filter, I will dig up the
docs and help you. 

	But if you imagine you are acting for the good of all, my ego is
not as great as yours. 

> :       Use your filter to stop reading me instead of trying to play
> : hitlerite dictator. FILTER! FILTER! FILTER! And go away.

>   And the reason for insulting me in this way: A vcard.
>   How old are you?

	Don't play that stupld game with me. Use your filter or shut up. 

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>From now filtered. 

Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> Nick Portelli wrote:
> 
> > I'd hate to offend anyone, but aren't you the people who get all annoyed
> > when a thread gets way off topic?  Well this is off topic.  Take your
> > signatures and fight elsewhere.
> 
>         I wish they would but I am not one to put up with rude and
> arrogant.
> 
>         Does this post bother you? Not the content, the format.

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Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
: 	If they WANT to read my posts then they put up with the
: inconvenience. 

  Have you ever heard about good manners?
  I would like to read your articles. I'm sure that you know things about
POV-Ray that I don't and it would be very nice to learn them.
  The extra lines don't really bother me, they just distract me and
they don't belong here.
  I certainly have no reason to filter your articles. It just would be
nicer if they didn't have automatically generated non-relevant text.
  Besides, if I put you in my kill file, it's like saying that you are
a disgusting person who I don't want to know anything of. That's not true.

  I still can't understand what's the big deal about that vcard. I'm
perplexed.

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It's the download that's the annoyance and the loading whatever
group it is in, not the content.  It's just spam. 

Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> Margus Ramst wrote:
> 
> > What can a vcard do that a sig can't, anyway?
> 
>         I thought no one would ever ask.
> 
>         For me it is a lack of annoyance. I appreciate them. What does
> annoy me to no end is exactly the same sig words over and over
> and over. And the more clever the faster the annoyance increases.
> 
>         From the BBS days, one of the main selling points of the offline
> readers was rotating sigs.
> 
>         The Vcard is a different solution by encapsulating all the sig
> words, read them if you wish and only if you wish.
> 
>         There have always been problems of backwards campatibility of
> new ideas with old.

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Nieminen Mika wrote:

> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:

> :       What in the hell is your excuse for not filtering me instead of
> : being rude to me which started all this?

>   I think that people have the right to defend themselves when someone
> calls them nazi and communist.

	The people? Who do you speak for?  (Everyone this nerfbrain
speaks for please post in the affiramtive.) No posts?! Then only
you are the object this. Please stop trying to enlarger your
personal position to a group-wide position. 

>   The only rude thing I have called you is "childish". That is rude, I
> admit it and apologize if I offended you serioulsy. I personally act
> childisly some times too (perhaps right now).

	You "told me" to stop doing something because your primative
software could not deal with it. You did not ask. You did not
describe, you did not discuss. Your arrogant keystrokes told me
what to do. 

	Now your buddies are threatening spam-bait. Get your act
together. BTW: Eudora tells me I just got some spam. Shall we
discuss it? Retaliation is heaven. 

>   However, I think that "nazi", "hitler" and "communist" are quite more rude
> than "childish".

	I have not in the least attempted to dictate what is posted here
nor the form in which it is posted. 

	You have and now the spam has started. 

	Would you like to explain your inciting to spam? 

>   Anyways, it's funny. What I'm saying is: "take into account all the
> people, also those who are using old news readers". What you are saying
> is: "use a better newsreader and shut up". May I ask who is the dictator
> here?

	I said to YOU and other complainers and ONLY those, to use a
better newsreader, or FILTER or shut up. 

	Stop lying about what I have said. 
 
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> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

	Real shit code as an example to people learning. Very shit. 

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Nieminen Mika wrote:
> 
> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
> :       What in the hell is your excuse for not filtering me instead of
> : being rude to me which started all this?
> 
>   I think that people have the right to defend themselves when someone
> calls them nazi and communist.
>   The only rude thing I have called you is "childish". That is rude, I
> admit it and apologize if I offended you serioulsy. I personally act
> childisly some times too (perhaps right now).
>   However, I think that "nazi", "hitler" and "communist" are quite more rude
> than "childish".
>   Anyways, it's funny. What I'm saying is: "take into account all the
> people, also those who are using old news readers". What you are saying
> is: "use a better newsreader and shut up". May I ask who is the dictator
> here?
> 
> --
> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
: 	You "told me" to stop doing something because your primative
: software could not deal with it. You did not ask. You did not
: describe, you did not discuss. Your arrogant keystrokes told me
: what to do. 

  Then I apologize. Forgive me.
  Now I ask you. Is that ok?

: 	Real shit code as an example to people learning. Very shit. 

  Why are you provoking me?

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Nieminen Mika wrote:

> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
> :       If they WANT to read my posts then they put up with the
> : inconvenience.

>   Have you ever heard about good manners?

	Have you ever heard of Unix and not whining about the
consequences? Manners are not whining about your choice of OS. 

>   I would like to read your articles. I'm sure that you know things about
> POV-Ray that I don't and it would be very nice to learn them.

	Do so.

>   The extra lines don't really bother me, they just distract me and
> they don't belong here.

	But if they are of so little worth that a few lines that annoy
you are a problem then that is your problem. 

	I do not care in the least if you read them or not. 

>   I certainly have no reason to filter your articles. It just would be
> nicer if they didn't have automatically generated non-relevant text.

	If you do not filter, do not complain. 

	You could have been polite in the beginning. You were not. 

>   Besides, if I put you in my kill file, it's like saying that you are
> a disgusting person who I don't want to know anything of. That's not true.

	What you call me is your business. I could not care less what
you think of me. It is a matter of mutual respect and there is
none at this point. 

>   I still can't understand what's the big deal about that vcard. I'm
> perplexed.

	And you are obviously going to remain perplexed. 

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