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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 1 Aug 1999 22:06:57
Message: <37a4f9f5.87370518@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:47:34 -0600, "Twyst" <twy### [at] twystednet> wrote:

>Here's a new question: What browsers are people running? I do try to keep my
>site text-friendly, but I need to know how high a level I should be using.
> should I restrict myself to IE 3.0 and netscape 2? (god, I hope not!) )

  Hi, Twyst. I use Netscape Communicator v4.6 here. Please consider making
pages that look decent (doesn't have to be award-winning), are logically
arranged, and load fast on a typical modem connection. Thanks for listening.

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From: Ken Matassa
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 1 Aug 1999 22:36:30
Message: <37A504AC.22FF@pacbell.net>
I'm currently using N3.0 under Win 3.1, but hope to have SuSE Linux 6.1
up soon on a plug in drive. At work I'm using N2.0, which locks up on
Java scripts. We have Red Hat 6.0 loaded on a $00 mhz K6, but are having
problems getting the modem to work.

Ken Matassa


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From: Martin Crisp
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 01:03:38
Message: <37a526aa@news.povray.org>
Twyst wrote in message <37a3d388@news.povray.org>...
>Well, as the overwhelming response is 'No Flash', I won't be using it.
>
>Here's a new question: What browsers are people running? I do try to
keep my
>site text-friendly, but I need to know how high a level I should be
using.
> should I restrict myself to IE 3.0 and netscape 2? (god, I hope
not!) )

CyberDog 2.0 (at home, Netscrape 4.5 if needs be)
IE 4 at work

>Personally, I'm going to shoot for html 4.0 compliant.

CyberDog isn't... it chokes on:
nested tables
javascript (simply ignores it)
some plug-ins

Have Fun
Martin
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From: Twyst
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 04:48:21
Message: <37a55b55@news.povray.org>
> Javascript is OK (to handle things like mouseover and popup windows).  But
> I agree not to use java with anything necessary.  I almost always have
java
> disabled.  Java VMs (in my experience) are too unstable.  Why should I
> risk crashing Netscape or IE just so I can see some animated banner (which
> I have to wait forever to load over my slow phone connection anyway)?

I agree. I personally HATE java with a passion. In my opinion, it's a total
waste of time. After all, it's touted as 'write once, work everywhere', but
in my experience, it's 'write once, test everywhere'. If you're worried
about portability, try ANSI compliant C.

Javascript, imho, is ok, since often a browser will simply ignore it if it
doesn't understand it.

Twyst


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From: Twyst
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 05:21:47
Message: <37a5632b@news.povray.org>
>
> >Personally, I'm going to shoot for html 4.0 compliant.
>
> CyberDog isn't... it chokes on:
> nested tables
> javascript (simply ignores it)
> some plug-ins


Well, since I do a LOT of my layout with nested tables, there's not much I
can do.
Plugins: well, I've already decided that I don't want to use any (flash was
an idea... but that's been vetoed.) I've never heard of this browser... Is
it anything like Opera?

Twyst


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 09:21:15
Message: <37a59b4b@news.povray.org>
In article <37a5632b@news.povray.org> , "Twyst" <twy### [at] twystednet> wrote:

>> CyberDog isn't... it chokes on:
>> nested tables
>> javascript (simply ignores it)
>> some plug-ins
>
>
> Well, since I do a LOT of my layout with nested tables, there's not much I
> can do.
> Plugins: well, I've already decided that I don't want to use any (flash was
> an idea... but that's been vetoed.) I've never heard of this browser... Is
> it anything like Opera?

It is a browser developed by Apple years ago and officially discontinued for
at least two years.  It won't run on future Macs anyway.


     Thorsten


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From: Twyst
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 09:57:27
Message: <37a5a3c7@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
news:37a59b4b@news.povray.org...
> In article <37a5632b@news.povray.org> , "Twyst" <twy### [at] twystednet> wrote:
>
> >> CyberDog isn't... it chokes on:
> >> nested tables
> >> javascript (simply ignores it)
> >> some plug-ins
> >
> >
> > Well, since I do a LOT of my layout with nested tables, there's not much
I
> > can do.
> > Plugins: well, I've already decided that I don't want to use any (flash
was
> > an idea... but that's been vetoed.) I've never heard of this browser...
Is
> > it anything like Opera?
>
> It is a browser developed by Apple years ago and officially discontinued
for
> at least two years.  It won't run on future Macs anyway.
>

ah. ok. that means I don't have to worry about it. =D

Anyways.. I have a quick preview of the site look up at
http://24.108.7.134/work.htm

Give me some feedback on it, please.

>
>      Thorsten
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
> e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
>
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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 10:01:13
Message: <37a5a4a9@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:47:34 -0600, Twyst wrote:
>Well, as the overwhelming response is 'No Flash', I won't be using it.
>
>Here's a new question: What browsers are people running? 

Netscape 4.5, IE 4 or 5 depending on which machine I'm using, and
whatever version of Lynx came with OpenLinux 2.2.   In short, 
nothing 100% HTML 4.0 compatible.  (But then again, what browser 
is?)


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 10:02:54
Message: <37A5A45A.1ADE8EF2@pacbell.net>
Twyst wrote:

> Anyways.. I have a quick preview of the site look up at
> http://24.108.7.134/work.htm
> 
> Give me some feedback on it, please.

It loads quickly on my modem connection, looks professional but not glitzy,
and the navigation bar looks efficient and not over done. I would say you
are definitely on the right track with your current implementation.

-- 
Ken Tyler
  
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/links.htm


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Twysted.net
Date: 2 Aug 1999 10:51:57
Message: <37A5B097.AE676983@peak.edu.ee>
Twyst wrote:
> 
> Anyways.. I have a quick preview of the site look up at
> http://24.108.7.134/work.htm
> 
> Give me some feedback on it, please.
> 

Loads quickly (even though I have a 14.4 connection right now). Looks neat and
tasteful. Structure seems clear, logical. I like it.

Margus


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